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Sources: Coaches frustrated w/Clowney, some Players say he's a diva

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by NateNate, Oct 16, 2014.

  1. thedude077

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    If you believe this news, YOU'RE A MORON.

    This obviously fake rumor made by attention seeking whores who have no lives. The coaches and the players want to wait until his leg is 100% healthy. Bill O'brien has been saying it for a long time that he wants Clowney healthy before he plays again. Even Clowney said it on an interview that he wants to play and rush his rehab but players tell him to take it slow, he has a long career ahead of him. And Bill O'brien wants him back 100%. Anyone who believes this rumor is a moron.
     
  2. Nook

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    So basically your logic is: "Err it isn't legitimate because I say so!"


    As someone once told Virginia Woolf.... "You have a history Virginia."
     
  3. thedude077

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    Do you even know how to read?
     
  4. ipaman

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    All of this is more of an indictment on Mercilus and Reed than anything else. Coaches would rather have an injured rookie risk his future than for you to play.
     
  5. Bobbythegreat

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    Well that and if this news is true (big if) then it's an indictment of the coaching staff. If they are really dumb enough to try and rush their first round pick back from a major knee injury then this team is in trouble long term.

    He got a legit scoop last week, but this sounds like tabloid BS.
     
  6. Remii

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    What would you expect O'Brien to say...

    Braddock said Clowney didn't want to play. And if he doesn't, he shouldn't play. Ryan Mathews (Chargers RB who's known as an injury prone player) was supposed to be back this week are next but he's not even running yet. Hard to put a healing timeline on some injuries or a players ability to play on those injuries... If Clowney takes longer to heal than they should give him the time and not force him out there just because it's a prime time game.

    As far as what Braddock said about his work ethic. No surprise and they knew about that before they drafted him.

    Clowney probably was coddled by his coaches all through grade school and high school and Steve Spurrier was his college head coach who's main concern is his golf tee time. They better be careful how they're handling this kid.
     
  7. JayGoogle

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    http://www.houstonchronicle.com/spo...hp?cmpid=twitter-premium&t=9740bb21c4cc308649

    This whole thing seems like a fabricated story.

    It doesn't really make sense anyhow, why would a unproven rookie NOT want to play? A guy that hasn't even played a full NFL game yet not want to play? A number 1 pick, whose dream was to always play in the NFL not want to play? Unless he's actually really hurt and a little doubtful if not scared that he may make his injury worse?

    Why would a medical team rush any player back from any kind of partial tear in the knee? That's just dumb as well.
     
  8. ipaman

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    Agreed but it's a domino effect. Mercilus and Reed have the coaches thinking this way because they are severely under performing. If either were fulfilling their role than coaches would be more than happy to sit Clowney out. As it stand the coaches are desperate because they're getting nothing from those guys.
     
  9. Bobbythegreat

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    With Watt beasting the way he has been, if those guys were any good at all they'd be killing out there. I can understand wanting to have Clowney out there because face it, we probably have 2 more wins this year if he was playing, but you just can't rush guys back from knee injuries. If he's not ready to go, he's not ready to go, let's not make the same mistake the Redskins did with RG3.
     
  10. thedude077

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    Since when Bill O'Brien said he wants Clowney to play on Monday? Seriously stop it with this crap.
     
  11. thedude077

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    This is the biggest understatement rumor I ever heard. This is so stupid and it pisses me off more that there's actually fans believing this crap.
     
  12. awc713

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    jj watt wouldnt allow this attitude. im sure clowney wants to play, he just wants to be healthy. can you really blame him?
     
  13. Bobbythegreat

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    Also, when it comes to those still pushing the "poor work ethic" narrative....

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>&quot;When the trainer says he can come on the field, we'll work with him,&quot; Crennel about Clowney. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash">#Texans</a></p>&mdash; Tania Ganguli (@taniaganguli) <a href="https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/status/522847578451615744">October 16, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Clowney says he gets mad a the trainers sometimes but appreciates what they've done for him. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash">#Texans</a></p>&mdash; Tania Ganguli (@taniaganguli) <a href="https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/status/523181275541430273">October 17, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    Earlier there were quotes about how the trainers were making him slow down his rehab and how he'd have to be patient and take it slow. If the coaches are frustrated with anyone, it would probably be the trainers because they are the ones dictating the pace of his return...and we already know that Clowney was frustrated with them because he wanted a quicker rehab schedule.
     
  14. Bandwagoner

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    Your theory doesn't really fit how rehab works. The entire recovery is based on strength returning to the leg and how close it is to the healthy leg. His knee will hurt and still feel weird but after the surgery the structure of the knee is fine. The rehab returns the strength lost and when the strength is say 95% of the healthy leg they clear him. The treatments they talk about are to reduce swelling and aid recovery which helps to regain strength faster. There is nothing to take slow. He was asking out of practice himself, not being pulled.

    I think he basically doesn't trust doctors and wants his knee to feel "normal" again which won't happen for several months despite the fact that it is structurally sound. Eventually he will just play on it.
     
  15. Bobbythegreat

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    The theory is based on what everyone has said about it. Clowney has said that the trainers have restricted what he can do, RAC has said that the trainers have restricted when he can practice fully, Clowney has said that he was frustrated by the trainers restrictions....The only thing suggesting otherwise is Jayson Braddock's "sources".
     
  16. Bandwagoner

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    It seems your defense of Clowney has moved you to question Braddock despite him breaking stories way before anyone else. Why have you taken this course instead of thinking Braddock is probably correct about some dispute and that instead of Clowney being wrong, the coaches are dumb meatheads trying to save their jobs?

    Out of all the possibilities, the one I am least likely to believe is that Braddock is just making stuff up.
     
  17. Remii

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    Friday was the 1st time Clowney practiced with the team (limited) since week one (according to the article posted above) but yet O'Brien says he's a "game time decision" for Monday night. Most coaching staffs would want a player to get a couple of full practice days in and see how his body (knee) responds before they just throw him out there... Especially a rookie who has missed time in training camp and pre-season. So by O'Brien saying he's a game time decision _ is pretty much saying he wants Clowney to play.

    And by O'Brien telling Clowney it's his decision on rather he plays or not on Monday is putting unnecessary pressure on Clowney as well... That decision shouldn't be in Clowney's hands.
     
  18. Bandwagoner

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    It is only in his hands if the medical staff has signed off on him playing. He doesn't have to power to veto their call he only have the power to get out of playing. This should make it painfully obvious to anyone he has been cleared medically.
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    Braddock managed to get a scoop last week, but even with that boost, he still doesn't have a lot of credibility IMO. I prefer to think that the Texans coaching staff isn't completely inept, especially when there is evidence to the contrary, but that could be the case and they might be trying to force Clowney back early. Tania Ganguli, a much more legitimate source, has reported that the trainers have held Clowney back and she's reported about RAC acknowledging that fact and she's reported about Clowney's frustration with them for doing so....to me that's a lot more legitimate than some Chris Broussardesque "sources" story by an out of work sports writer/radio talking head.

    There's been several stories by legitimate writers about how Clowney has been really wanting to get back on the field as quickly as possible and he even opted to do the surgery that would ensure his ability to get back on the field this year rather than going with the repair surgery that would keep him out longer. It takes a willing suspension of disbelief to put much stock in the Braddock story given what else is out there already by more legitimate sources.
     
  20. Bandwagoner

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    Every player wants to get back on the field, if he doesn't trust the doctors that desire will be outweighed by fear. The repair vs remove decision is made by doctors in surgery, not a player. It isn't a decision like you are trying to portray. If there is no ability to heal, it will be removed. If it is possible to heal, they will repair.
     
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