Dude, when you work for Umbrella Corporation, wearing a hazmat suit only means you're a lackey and will likely be killed anyway in the very next scene. Bosses on the other hand never give an iota of ****, ever.
I am assuming you know a few things. So: A) You are being stubborn to the truth. You know the Ebola strains can behave differently. B You also know that in order to get to a higher level of fever, it has to first pass 99.5 degrees. A low-grade fever is part of "when symptoms start" and not all strains behave the same, meaning some could transmit at different times (including just before the fever sets in and on).
The CDC could have, and should have stopped her in her tracks. In terms of blame, CDC gets 60%, the nurse gets 40%, might even be 70/30 imo.
We know what strain this is and how it spreads. Despite the media positing theories and message board warriors repeating them, there is zero evidence that this strain is any different than it has been in Africa each time this particular version (Zaire) outbreaks. People are panicking and saying the CDC failed (and they do look stupid) but please keep in mind that ONE individual has made it to the United States with Ebola. He infected no one he came in contact with until the nurses who were poorly trained. The other three patients that have been treated in the US (not counting the two nurses yet as they are too soon to evaluate) have not passed the infection to anyone. Ebola is highly infectious, but the US is very well equipped to avoid it spreading, both in medical facilities AND in just the general knowledge and awareness people have. Senegal dealt with one case in this terrible outbreak and shut it down without it spreading. Nigeria is what, 1 or 2 days from being Ebola free after it caught on there? Let's relax.
I posted this in the Pic thread as a response, and thought y'all should also see it for the LOLs: Reminds me of this I'm no ToyCen or Hotballa, but there seems to be a BIT OF TRUTH in this: https://www.facebook.com/notes/10202862436634177/ I'm so confused!!! <- kidding, of course. :grin: I don't believe that crap. ^^^
Swoly, You should be ashamed of yourself for posting that crap. You are an intelligent adult. I know you can act like a doofus on this board, but I've met you. You aren't an idiot. I'm surprised you would stoop as low as to post some nonsense bs from a loser claiming Ebola doesn't exist. Do you know those same idiots in the early 90s were claiming AIDs didn't exist? Edit: My bad Swoly, I didn't realize you were mocking the dummies.
This isn't hard to understand. The guys/gals in the hazmat suits are going to be dealing directly with the patient. The guy in plain clothes isn't. You don't get ebola by breathing the same air or standing next to people who have it. It is transmitted by very specific methods. Do the blaze idiots think everyone on that plane, including pilots, are wearing hazmat suits? Good grief, the stupidity is going through the roof. If America is ever hit with a real airborne virus, people will start killing each other in no time.
Considering he's an MD, I would think he does know a few things. You should calm down on the fearmongering. It's not productive.
I think she thinks if she's diagnosed with ebola in Dallas, she could be treated there and be close to friends and family. If she's diagnosed in Cleveland, she might not make it back to Dallas. She talks to the CDC and they say her temperature isn't high enough for a fever. If it was higher, someone else would pick up the bill on transporting her, but it's not. So, if she misses this flight and doesn't have ebola, she loses her airfare for nothing. Dallas Pres and the CDC won't be reimbursing her then. And, she knows that even if she does have ebola, she's not yet at a stage where she's sweating and vomiting and crapping all over the place. She can probably make it home without bleeding or coughing or sneezing on anyone. In that light, traveling on commercial airliners is probably a bad idea because airfare policies create perverse incentives. But, I don't think she volunteered for this life either. She was taking care of this guy before they knew he had ebola. If they went into the breakroom and asked all the nurses for volunteers to handle ebola and volunteers won't be able to attend any weddings they may be planning to have in Cleveland, I don't think she would have raised her hand. So, I have a hard time blaming her, and I have a hard time believing the CDC which seems to be good at only deflecting blame. They probably have some policy about flying, but they obviously didn't do enough to enforce it or train it. I appreciate her doing a job I certainly don't want. I'll give her as much slack as I can out of my appreciation for that.
How is it good judgment to contact the CDC with your concerns but then to ignore what they say? If you think she should have ignored the CDC regardless, why was it a good idea to contact them in the first place? She did what the experts told her to do.
I don't get it? If HIV is easier to transmit than Ebola why is everyone freKing out about a guy walking along someone in a containment suit?
To get ratings the media goes sensationalist on a number of topics, most people see "media noise" as real and freak. Fear is the easiest to manipulate for gain.
More details from a nurses point of view at the hospital http://www.wkyc.com/story/news/heal...se-blasts-hospital-for-ebola-crisis/17345123/
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" lang="en"><p>JUST IN: Nina Pham, Ebola-stricken Dallas nurse, expected to be moved to Maryland <a href="http://t.co/e9O8Ozb3NT">http://t.co/e9O8Ozb3NT</a> <a href="http://t.co/jbZWfMiNLs">pic.twitter.com/jbZWfMiNLs</a></p>— NBC News (@NBCNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/522772655322066944">October 16, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
And that is where we differ, because none of what you said would register with me. I would have gone to the hospital. Any hospital. She is not being treated in Dallas anyway, she was transferred to Atlanta. Can't see it be around her family, etc. so no I don't believe your points are valid. If even one person who was on that plane gets Ebola, she will regret boarding it. I can't make you agree with me, and u can't make me agree with you, let's agree to disagree.
