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Ebola 1st case in the US

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Ron from the G, Sep 30, 2014.

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  1. justtxyank

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    Is it actually or is the outbreak just worse?

    I haven't seen any medical or scientific reports that say this is a different version of Ebola.
     
  2. justtxyank

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    Everything I've read says this is the Zaire strain, not mutated and the most common type.
     
  3. TechieOne

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    Only IF the nurse was told there are travel restrictions and she breached it on purpose. If ebola isn't considered airborne and she didn't show any symptoms then I would doubt there are any restrictions on her.

    I mean if your going to do that, you are essentially saying all nurses or caregivers should be quarantined too. She wouldn't need to travel to spread it. She could spread it just going to the bar and living her life.
     
  4. B-Bob

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    I read the same thing, saying the difference is that for the first time, this virus got into densely populated areas. All that said, it does seem incredibly infectious. Perhaps the bigger miracle is that it didn't spread much for the last 40 years.
     
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    Yes, I over-reacted and posted that without much thought. My bad.

    EDIT: or I hope I did anyway. (looking at next post from TL and WAPO.)
     
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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...passenger-plane-a-day-before-being-diagnosed/

    "The second health-care worker diagnosed with Ebola had a fever of 99.5 degrees Fahrenheit before boarding a passenger jet on Monday, a day before she reported symptoms of the virus and was tested, according to public health officials."

    This makes me angry.
     
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    Correct, and the idea that we need to increase funding is moronic, we need to rearrange the funding. BTW, Congress increased the CDC's budget far more than the president asked for in his budget.


    I am aware. It's a total misuse of money and an insult to everyone with a real disease.

    They can't quit because they don't have the willpower. That's $50 million that could of been spent on controlling this disease and others. Smoking is a choice, Ebola is not.

    How in the world can you justify a $400,000 survey?
     
  8. TechieOne

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    Yeah it's a bad situation all around
     
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    I'd heard a story on NPR a while back about a theory that patient zero of the West Africa outbreak was a mixing vessel of two viruses -- but I can't find it now. Maybe it wasn't NPR, I don't know, or maybe I'm wrong.

    I did find this NPR article http://www.npr.org/blogs/goatsandso...he-skies-how-the-virus-made-it-to-west-africa about how their are 5 strains of ebola and this one has the stamp of Ebola Zaire, the most deadly.
     
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    Again, part of the CDC mission is communicating with the public. Let's say there is a disease like Ebola that is airborne. However, by doing/not doing a few things, you can dramatically reduce spread. How do you communicate that to not just the people who watch TV, listen to radio, and read newspapers, but as many of everyone else as possible? Having info available on public transportation seems like it might help. Let's test it and see what people think, how much they remember, what difference it made to them, whether they talked to others about it, etc. Yo do it with AIDS and then apply the knowledge gained to other diseases and health emergencies. Seems rational to me. And again, there is great difficulty in reaching everyone but you have to try because we have the same biology as the guy taking the bus between his two minimum wage jobs.
     
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    A theory, not substantiated by any facts.

    Right. The most deadly, and the most common.

    Let's be careful about putting word out there that is a new version of Ebola when non of the science points to that.
     
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    I just think there needs to be something done about people in contact with the zero patient. I'm not saying for CDC to ban health workers from flying...just the ones who came in contact with Duncan when he was most contagious until they are in clear. I'd take precaution over civic freedom when it comes to preventing ebola from spreading. I hope that she knew what she was doing and did not have a fever when she flew. This is just a terrible situation. :mad:
     
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    I am. I'm one of the few people left in America not panicking apparently (God help this country if there is ever a real outbreak of anything) but I am saying that.

    Flying on airplane is not a right. Healthcare workers who treat an Ebola patient should have restricted travel (no public transportation) until they are outside of the incubation period.
     
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    I agree with your statement.
     
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    OF course it is. And you think a survey should cost $400,000? This was a survey of some bus riders. A competent person could survey almost all of Houston for a tenth of that.

    The CDC needed to properly control one contagious individual. Not to quarantine a town. Is it really your or tony's argument that they don't have the funding to control 1 person? Their budget is billions of dollars.
     
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    I'm already burned out on all the news coverage; have stopped watching the news on CNN and local stations...as it's all Ebola and ISIS.

    As far as this second nurse boarding the plane knowing the situation she was in, I don't think she was wise at all even if the CDC dropped the ball. I highly question her judgment. She should not have been on that plane to or from Cleveland.
     
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    How can that nurse be so stupid? Where is your common sense?
     

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