I didn't say I wanted to increase or decrease their budget. I certainly want the CDC to stop spending money on anti-smoking campaigns and other wasteful nonsense. smoking is easy to control. It's called willpower.
ok CDC PR person who is extremely stubborn. NOT CORRECT, WE DO NOT ALL AGREE THE NURSE BOTCHED THIS. In fact most of AGREE the CDC BOTCHED THIS. This is not just your everyday infectious disease. This was the VERY FIRST CASE OF EBOLA diagnosed on US SOIL! This was Patient 0!! This is a virus that kills 70% of the people it infects. It is not just every day infectious disease so stop downplaying it like its your common cold virus. You don't think the CDC should have been hands on containing this situation from day 1? I'm just shocked and surprised this wasn't the case and that they left a local hospital to handle the situation. You are still arguing and trying to deflect blame from the CDC when their own director has admitted they are to blame and they made HUGE MISTAKES.
Not only did she get on the plane after treating an ebola patient. It sounds like she got on a plane after one of her co-workers, treating the same patient was diagnosed with ebola.
People have lost their minds ever since the african died which was obvious to anyone paying attention would happen. I have worked with thallium and HF if I was killed I wouldn't have blamed osha.
CDC and the hospital needs to restrict the travel plans of health workers who cared for Duncan until they are in the clear! It sounds so simple and it blows my mind on why she went on a plane after treating Duncan... I'm hoping that she was NOT contagious when she flew.
It seems pretty simple, but it gets more complicated with each step of stupid. Never underestimate stupid when dealing with humans.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>BREAKING: CDC director: health worker exposed to Ebola should not have traveled on a commercial airline.</p>— The Associated Press (@AP) <a href="https://twitter.com/AP/status/522433421277409280">October 15, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>BREAKING: Government: One of the Dallas Ebola patients to be transported to Emory University Hospital.</p>— The Associated Press (@AP) <a href="https://twitter.com/AP/status/522433764224688128">October 15, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
well, you can gub'mint stuff to the D&D I guess. To me it's a necessary evil and we should all pitch in to make it work better. But in any case, the stupidity of people is not really open to debate, sorry. To the extent government entities are composed of people, well there you have it. Same as non-government entities.
First case ever of Ebola on US Soil <> every infectious disease. We have no idea if the nurses botched this - we have no idea if they were properly trained or if the hospital had proper procedures in place. I don't expect every nurse in America to be an expert on ebola. I do expect that of the CDC.
I do agree that the latest nurse botched things by traveling - both to Cleveland and especially back home after knowing that a fellow nurse was infected. No excuses for that.
Ebola is pretty similar to Lassa fever though. We have had seven of those here. I think the CDC is an easy target and when they even hinted the nurses might be at fault were publicly flogged. People are reactionary right now. People will blame the CDC for not keeping her under armed guard. At some point you have to trust people.
Not to go too much into D&D territory, but this and your previous post show a lack of understanding about how federal agencies are funded. They are not given one big amount and then allowed to choose how the money is spent. The money comes down from Congress sliced into discrete little pieces. In CDC's case, there are 10 centers plus NIOSH plus other offices, all of which get directed funding. CDC has little to no ability to take funding from say, the National Center for Birth Defects and Developmental Disabilities and put it into the Office of Public Health Preparedness and Response. To do so would literally take an act of Congress. Speaking of, one of the things I'm hoping for from the lame-duck session in December is an emergency funding bill for CDC and other agencies involved in the Ebola response. Anti-smoking stuff was authorized by Congress and is tied to the tobacco company settlement that gave a bunch of money to the states for anti-smoking efforts. It's also part of CDC's National Comprehensive Cancer Control Program. Where smoking is concerned, companies get the profits and we, the people, often get saddled with the costs of caring for folks when they do develop cancer. Smoking is addictive on purpose. Lots of folks with tremendous willpower have been unable to quit. The best thing we can do for people and society as a whole is to keep people from starting. We don't have the political will to ban cigs so we end up with anti-smoking campaigns trying to combat the tobacco companies smoking campaigns. On the bus survey, a big part of CDC's mission is to communicate about public health issues to the public. Conducting a survey on the effectiveness of communications that stand a chance a reaching people who may not watch TV or read newspapers seems OK to me. Poor people riding the bus have the same biology as anyone else.
This strain of ebola is different from the ebola of yesteryear and a lot more contagious. That's much of the reason why this outbreak is so big while previous outbreaks remained relatively contained. But, as for terrorists: I think a lot of people can romanticize going down in a hail of bullets or going up in a big conflagration. You'd have to really, really love your God an awful lot to intentionally die of ebola. I think people are overreacting a bit on this. She was checking herself for symptoms and didn't show any until the next day. Supposedly, you aren't contagious until you show symptoms. And, apparently, this contagion is just exponential as the disease progresses. So much so that unprotected people on the plane with Duncan and in the apartment with him did not get sick despite an almost complete lack of precaution. It's very unlikely the nurse would have infected anyone given the timing. And we need to be careful about restricting the freedoms of healthcare workers on the frontlines of this problem. They have civic freedoms that should be protected until there is a compelling reason to restrict them -- you can't just hand out quarantine orders like candy. And two, who is going to want this job where not only do you get to risk your life caring for other people, but you get to have the CDC criticize you for 'breaching protocol' and you're not allowed to do all the normal things that non-convicts are free to do.
Back to that one lulzy Libertarian comment from earlier, you hire a privatized task force or even just offer an incentive to the current staff. You work this patient you get a bonus but you're not allowed to travel on a plane.
