It is reminiscent of the American media spreading the fear of HIV/Aids. The risk of contracting HIV is about 1/8000 if you have sexual contact with an infected partner. The chances of catching it from a random partner in the US in a one night stand if you are a heterosexual man is more like 1-50 million. American media portrayed this virus as being extremely contagious, when in reality it is extremely unlikely to catch in the American public. The media had Oprah open up about it and scare the living crap out of every American claiming that it would basically infect anyone who had unprotected sex. The true reality is that if you aren't homosexual, using IV drugs, or sleeping with one of these people, then you have a better chance of getting struck by lightning twice. Back to my subject though, American media is intelligent. There scare tactics prevent people from putting themselves in higher risk factors.
The CDC's job is to contain the spread. Part of that is to ensure the hospital - who has zero real-world experience with ebola - is following safety protocols with the one actual infected patient that could spread the disease. We knew from the start that the hospital failed to follow basic care guidelines on Visit #1, so the CDC has to know the hospital has at least some issues. The CDC is inside the hospital talking to people - they should be seeing if nurses are not properly protected or if hazardous waste is not being collected. That said, at this point, that's only the nurse union's side of the story - we don't have any independent confirmation of any of these allegations.
I don't understand the rationale behind your firm defense of the CDC here. But, a couple things. The CDC has the ability to do more than just track the people that were exposed. It's not a 100 person team...they should have the bandwidth to do more than just track. Their job is to stop the spread of the virus. That means a lot of different things. That means tracking the patient and his/her contacts. That means ensuring the patient is properly isolated. That means ensuring all people exposed to the patient are adequately protected. That means all people who were exposed to the patient are restricted from travel. That DOES NOT mean trusting that a hospital that has never done this before knows how to handle this.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>did you fly on Frontier Airlines flight 1143 Cleveland to DFW on October 13? if so, call 800-CDC-INFO.... new ebola patient was on board</p>— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) <a href="https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/522409962241556480">October 15, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I know right..so odd how bandwagoner is defending the cdc so vehemently when they clearly failed. You are completely right. The cdc employs 15,000 employees and their job is not just interviewing people. Heck your local police force could do that.
The CDC didn't bring the first patient to the hospital. He brought himself to the hospital. The CDC did not diagnose the patient. The CDC did not overlook the procedures taken by the hospital in handling the ebola patient (or if they did, they did a piss poor job). What is it exactly you think the CDC has done? The CDC's job is to control the disease. The disease is not controlled. That's on them.
Is that even a function of the CDC? Do they actually get involve at that level at local hospitals? I wonder. I agree they should and if they aren't or "not really allowed" to with current law or funding, that should change for Ebola. CDC is very important (a reminder for friends that support cutting funds indiscriminately). Or just send all Ebola patient to Ebola-specialized units.
The CDC said the nurses were wearing paprs. Those are above and beyond just a surgical mask. They obviously checked what PPE they had. I don't see how anyone can hold them responsible for the actions of a hospital staff. They could have watched the care of the patient around the clock and not seen what ultimately spread the disease. One small misstep is all it takes even with the best PPE. This hospital has never cared for a patient with an infectious disease?
lmaoooo this is the EXACT supidity and only way ebola will spread. She just treated and ebola patient and is allowed to fly? just lol. Anyone who was involved in the treatment of Duncan should have had restrictions.
Yes it is, and the CDC director himself now admits it's what they should have done in the first place.
Dude, give it up.. THE CDC director himself admitted they should have put their team in place and will do so on all cases going forward. If that isn't clear enough of a admission that they failed and could have done more I don't know what is What's left to argue?
The CDC spent $50 million on an anti-smoking campaign and 400k to survey bus riders what they thought of HIV videos. Take that funding **** somewhere else.
anti-smoking is good. 400k in the scheme of thing is so small... take the funding somewhere else and let Ebola kills, nice. But let's stop it here - ain't the D&D
I believe him. How could he possibly know how incompetent the hospital was. I still don't understand what more you want the CDC to do here. They arrived, patient was in isolation, the nurses were wearing paprs. You wanted them at that point to isolate and quarantine all of the nurses and ship the guy to a different facility? The public health play was to track down possible carriers and get them isolated. When you see registered nurses in paprs taking care of a patient you typically don't think they will rub the guys sweat in their eyes. The CDC is an easy target. CDC can't say the sick nurses were incompetent. CDC can't bag on a hospital and scare the locals. The CDC is doing all of the press conferences. The CDC is the federal government and has a huge budget.
Perhaps by reading in the newspapers what they did on the first visit? From the CDC director himself: “I wish we had put a team like this on the ground the day the patient — the first patient — was diagnosed. That might have prevented this infection. But we will do that from today onward with any case anywhere in the U.S.,” Frieden said. Frieden described the new response team as having some of the world’s leading experts in how to care for Ebola and protect health-care workers. They planned to review everything from how the isolation room is physically laid out to what protective equipment health workers use and waste management and decontamination. ... Among the changes announced Tuesday by Frieden was a plan to limit the number of health workers who care for Ebola patients so they “can become more familiar and more systematic in how they put on and take off protective equipment, and they can become more comfortable in a healthy way with providing care in the isolation unit.” ... “We did send some expertise in infection control, but I think we could, in retrospect, with 20/20 hindsight, we could have sent a more robust hospital infection-control team and been more hands-on with the hospital from day one about how exactly this should be managed,” Frieden said. How about those things? If you have these teams, what are they for if not for this exact scenario? Why not deploy every resource on you have on day #1 to help address the first ever case of ebola in the US?
on the hospital... 3 hospitals in the US have successfully treated Ebola. What do they have in common... For a disease that kill 50-70% of infected, I think you can't take any chances and let inexperience, lack or training (for handling very deadly disease) or ill-equipped hospital handle Ebola. http://www.vox.com/2014/10/12/69645...-hospital-worker-nurse-biocontamination-units
I wanted the CDC to oversee every action taken by the hospital staff caring for the first ebola patient to make sure no mistakes were made. Either this didn't happen or it did happen and mistakes were still made. You say the hospital is to blame, but I blame the CDC for not catching the hospital's mistakes in handling the patient. The CDC's job is specifically the handling of these events.
The CDC director agrees with you on these points, sounds like, as do I. (edit: deleted some dumb stuff.)
We all agree the nurses botched this correct? Do you want the CDC to take over the care of every infectious disease? I think we can all see how they could have looked at the isolation and thought it was fine. The US has had several cases of hemorrhagic fever here before. At the same time you want to cut their budget and blame any federal entity possible.
