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Sources: Morey has been trying to get Rondo/Rubio this month

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by cyberx, Oct 14, 2014.

  1. AXG

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    Rondo would be a great addition, but he's always hurt. And no to Rubio!
     
  2. Rudyc281

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    Rondo will be a rocket.
     
  3. NotChandlerParsons

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    Was pretty much an ironman until his knee exploded.

    I definitely believe cyberx about this, but "trying to get" doesn't mean he called them up and offered to sell the farm. Might be trying to buy low on a clearly flawed player in Rubio or a guy who's recovering from an injury in Rondo. I could see him offering the Pellies pick for either but I don't think he's giving up a whole lot of picks and prospects.
     
  4. CelticsFan

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    I disagree with you. I don't believe the Celtics want Jones, they already have Sully and KO why would they want a third young PF? I understand Jones is a nice young PF but that position is filled in Boston. When it comes to Bass I don't believe he's just a throw in guy. Bass is a quality vet who has an expiring 7 million deal. IMO Bass will be moved to a contender in a separate deal at the deadline not as a dump in a deal with Rondo.

    When it comes to the NO's pick IMO the pick MAY be good but odds are they end up a decent team. Holiday is going to be back, Anderson is back, Davis is a beast and they added Asik. Not trolling here but NO could be fighting for a spot with HOU. IMO NO got better HOU got worse. The pick will probably end up being right in the middle of the pack. Asik was traded for the pick IMO Rondo has a lot more value than Asik.

    All in all the Celtics may be better off keeping Rondo and trying to get another star to go with him. Rondo is obviously a FA next year paying him the max before the new CBA all of a sudden doesn't look like that bad of a deal. Celtics are also the only ones to be able to sign him to a 5 year deal, no way will Rondo take a 4 year deal knowing he will be missing out on the new CBA money. At the very least Celtics will be able to do a sign and trade in the offseason when/if Rondo demands that 5th year
     
  5. basketballholic

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    Rondo won't sign any deal in Boston without a no-trade clause. There is the rub. Not 5 years.
     
  6. K-Low_4_Prez

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    Who needs Rubio when you got Ish Smith?
     
  7. CelticsFan

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    I believe that 5th year is very important to Rondo. Rondo knows he's missing the new CBA money and he signed a team friendly deal last contract. Please correct me if I'm wrong but Boston will be the only team able to sign him to a 5 year deal. IMO whoever wants to sign Rondo as a FA will need to give up something to Boston in a sign and trade
     
  8. Swishh

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    Wait, h'wat? I recall you saying around the Feb deadline that Morey checked in with Harden/Howard about their thoughts on Rondo, and both questioned his attitude. That was you, right?

    And isn't it funny that Rondo could have been attainable during the Feb trade deadline if Morey pulled the trigger on letting go of Parsons? Pretty funny in hindsight.
     
  9. basketballholic

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    Yes, the team he finishes out this season with is the only team that can give him 5 years and 7.5% raises.

    But........Rondo is one of a handful of ballers in the league who value winning significantly enough to want to avoid being traded to basketball Siberia. Rondo wants to play on Sundays in June. It drives him. Knowing that, he will not simply sign a 5-year deal that turns him into a trade asset for a rebuilding team. He's not going to allow it. Ainge will have to commit to rebuilding around Rondo by giving him the no-trade clause so that Rondo can control his destiny. And Rondo will walk away very easily to another team that gives him the 4-year max deal if he can get a no-trade clause from them if Ainge isn't willing to give him one. Ainge knows this. Ainge is the one that had to make a decision to commit to Rondo work not only the 5-year max deal but also the no-trade clause.

    Mark my words. This is a huge factor that goes with Rondo wherever he goes.
     
  10. Zoplicone

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    This is why I don't believe any of these rumors about the point guards. Morey obviously sees that.
     
  11. BleedRocketsRed

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    Please no Rubio. He isn't better than what we have right now. He sucks.
     
  12. Carl Herrera

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    Not surprising that Morey is looking at guys going into the last year of their deals. Also not surprising that a deal isn't struck. This is still early and teams tend to take a "wait and see" approach until motivated by some external events (like a trade deadline). Plenty of time for them to shop for better offers still.

    MIN seems to genuinely, and maybe wishfully, thinking that they can compete with their roster while holding onto Rubio. I think the Celts will trade Rondo despite their public statements saying otherwise. But they are not taking 65 cents on the dollar this early if there is a chance that they could get 80 cents by waiting. Rockets did something similar with Asik.
     
  13. nwcougar

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    Rubio is so overrated. He hasn't come close to living up to the expectations of when he first entered the league. In fact, I don't even think he's on the same level of Jeremy Lin. Yeah, he can pass but he commits way too many TO's and he STILL can't shoot consistently. Just my opinion but that's not what the Rockets need, particularly if they have to give up draft picks to acquire him. He is NOT going to make this team a playoff contender.
     
  14. SeekingAlpha

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    Unless we get one of them for absolute scraps, do not want.

    Replacing an all 2nd team NBA defender who can knock down the three every so often with a play maker who can (or can't in Rubio's case) defend, but absolutely cannot knock down any 3s is inefficiency at its finest.

    Ideally we need someone like Isiah Thomas. Can playmake, and can knock down 3s. If we're lacking on PG defense, the bring in Bev. I like targeting Thomas b/c Pheonix has way to many PGs at the moment.
     
  15. Aleron

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    The problem for Boston is that they depreciate their own asset by doing this, namely their own draft pick, the loss in value for keeping Asik was what? we might have picked 23 or 24 instead of 25? what's that? 1 cent on the dollar lost?

    Boston on the other hand could go with 8th or 9th instead of 3rd or 4th? that's about 30 cents on the dollar right there. Minnesota are running the same thing as Atlanta right now, coach running front office has conflict of interest going on.
     
  16. Dhoward12

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    Lets be honest how many people here have actually watched Rubio play and not just look at boxscore sheets?

    Lol, im not saying trade for him but some of you are acting like Rubio is some grade A scrub.
     
  17. kemah

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    lol

    I have watched him and he is an elite ball handler but he is not a finisher. I tried during FIBA to pay special attention to understand if it was just mechanics or was it in his head or a combo. I couldn't tell one way or the other but he will never be offensively capable.
     
  18. Codman

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    Flexibility? ....
     
  19. Carl Herrera

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    Rondo is out for a while more with broken hand anyway, so until he returns there is no cost to the draft pick.
     
  20. NateNate

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    Hey!! Aren't you an insider?? Tell us things....
     

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