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Would you consider a QB change at this point?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Eric Riley, Oct 9, 2014.

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Would you consider a QB change at this point?

  1. Yes - Bring in Mallett or Savage

    146 vote(s)
    64.9%
  2. No - Stick with Fitzpatrick as the starter (for now)

    79 vote(s)
    35.1%
  1. rezdawg

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    Exactly.

    Fitz has thrown a lot of picks...but if you look at them, it's not like all of them have been bad throws. How many terrible throws has he really made?

    One of the interceptions was a miscommunication with Foster. Who's fault that was, no one knows. One of the interceptions was a crazy athletic play over Hopkins. Two of the interceptions were tipped balls.

    At the end of the day, they're interceptions, so they hurt the team just as much, but...I cant necessarily say that he's erratic with his throws. He's made some excellent throws and some not so good throws, but let's not make him out to be some guy that just tosses the ball right to the other team like Geno Smith.
     
  2. The Real Shady

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    I've seen him make a few throws early in the year that should have been picks as well. Fitz is going to be Fitz. Forever stuck in the realm of even TD to INT ratio. A bad starting QB, but a great backup QB.
     
  3. solid

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    Last year's problem: Coach committed to an inferior QB.

    This year's problem: Coach committed to an inferior QB.

    With the Texans, the more things change the more they stay the same.
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    That's such a simplistic way of looking at things, I get why it's a popular viewpoint, but it's tiresome.
     
  5. whag00

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    Is he committed to him? Maybe for this yr but I doubt O'Brien sees Fitzpatrick as the qb he is going to ride his tenure with the Texans on.
     
  6. solid

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    If he does, his tenure won't be that long. Oh Wait, this is the Texans. Failure will be rewarded.

    I am not in a good mood today. I'll get off the board. Watching the Cowboys FINALLY look legit made me super frustrated and disappointed in the Texans. At least the Cowboys have a past, and now maybe a future. In Houston, we have Watt. Not that I am not thankful, but a winning team would be nice. But it never happens.
     
  7. Bobbythegreat

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    If anything it should do the opposite, the Texans looked better against the Cowboys than the Seachickens did at home. If the Cowboys actually are legit, it would suggest that the Texans might be pretty damn good too.
     
  8. HTown_DieHard

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    the story of the houston texans can be summarized in 1 phrase:

    "A day late, a buck short."
     
  9. Hey Now!

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    I really and truly don't want to scratch this itch... but comparing Matt Schaub, pre-2013, to Ryan Fitzpatrick, pre-2014, is like comparing an apple to a burning asteroid.

    I know we all get to apply a heap of hindsight on Schaub's tenure. And yes, there were obviously signs in 2012 that something was maddeningly wrong... But Ryan Fitzpatrick is not anywhere close to "good" Matt Schaub.

    You would think watching truly inferrior QBs for 22 games now (the Schaub of last year + Keenum + Fitzpatrick) would maybe give people a greater appreciation for Schaub...
     
  10. HTown_DieHard

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    so watching Schaub blow should give us a greater appreciation for Schaub?

    wait wut?
     
  11. rezdawg

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    Schaub had a 5 year period (2008-2012) in which he completed 65% of his passes, had a YPA of 7.87, and a QB rating of 94.

    Honestly, that's pretty damn impressive. It's sad that during that stretch, he had so many haters.

    I feel that people judge QBs as if every QB should perform up to the standards of Aaron Rodgers or Peyton Manning. When you look through that lens, you will never be satisfied. And that's 85% of Clutchfans, at least.
     
  12. Hey Now!

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    My theory has always been that the vast majority of fans are casual - they're simply not as invested in the current overall state of the league and therefore have a very narrow perspective. So many of the things they gripe about are universal issues throughout the NFL.

    Matt Schaub was a *very* good QB. He absolutely imploded. But give this running game and defense Matt Schaub, '08-'12, and this is a bonafide playoff team. (And FYI - looks who's enjoying his far-and-away best season as a QB... Joe Flacco. Hmmm... what's different this year.....)

    Ryan Fitzpatrick has exceeded my expectations - but only because my expectations were literally zero. I thought he was a hot garbage choice. He likely will prove to be by season's end. But so far? He's been a pleasant (if still average-ish) surprise.
     
  13. HTown_DieHard

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    let's be real, schaub was slicing & dicing prevent defenses as he was usually playing from behind. but please tell me more about his YPA... lol
     
  14. rezdawg

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    We averaged 9 wins a season during those 5 years...yeah, playing from behind. :rolleyes:

    The Dunning-Kruger Effect is huge with you. Look it up.
     
  15. Bobbythegreat

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    I think he's trying to say that Schaub was just really really clutch.
     
  16. Hey Now!

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    I find is incredibly convenient that out of 64 games, two seem to essentailly matter: Sunday night v Green Bay; Monday night v New England. Every other game has some goal-post moving excuse why Scahub's performance wasn't valid.
     
  17. solid

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    I know what you are saying and I agree. I was talking about Schaub's last season like hopefully Fitzpatrick's last season. The Texans could have and should have done better.
     
  18. Bobbythegreat

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    How could they have done better? They went after several vets but they didn't sign and so far no one from this draft class looks even as good as Fitz has this year. The closest to a good rookie QB this year is Derek Carr, but even if we got him, there's no way BOB was giving the starting job to a rookie.
     
  19. HTown_DieHard

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    wow, 9 whole wins!!!??

    Houston might win 9 games behind the 2nd worst starting QB this season... That says it all.

    anywho, i never liked schaub, and knew he wouldn't lead Houston to anything. he proved it.

    not sure why you guys keep bringing him up. he's a 3rd string QB.

    doesn't surprise me some of you can't let go. you guys are probably the same people voting to keep the Astrodome around.
     
  20. rezdawg

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    9 whole wins? What? Youre the one that said those stats came about from playing from behind. 9 wins per season shows how wrong you are.

    So because he sucks now means that he sucked 5 years ago?

    Great logic.
     

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