Bill Maher and Sam Harris arguing with Ben Affleck about Islam

ATW. If u were from civilized culture with morals and values , then it'd u rights to criticize others, the problem u r not

 

Best way to dismember an ATW argument is to read the source he posts. Usually, the article doesn't support the argument he's trying to make.

 

I never said they contradicted each other. I don't see the polls as contradicting each other. Re-read please

Again, of course they don't contradict each other. The polls do contradict the false narrative you are trying to put forward though which is:

Now here is the story that SJC is trying to spin. That Muslims will be kill us all for not being Muslims. That's the true aim of his post here. And he skipped the polls that clearly question this logic. If Muslims believe in religious freedom at 90+% then that doesn't seem to fit very well with the story is trying to get everyone to believe.

And here is lies what defines SJC as having a severe case of Islamophobia. He takes one fact and tries to use it to create fear for a people even if there is evidence that clearly flies in the face of it. That is by textbook definition xenophobia.

Do many Muslim countries have many issues that need to be addressed? Absolutely. Are we in danger of Muslims taking over the world and killing us all? Hardly. Stop this denigrating of a billion people. We get it, you think Islam is evil.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/1983/08/14/opinion/scholars-of-islamic-law-ponder-its-ancient-gates.html

Summary: Islamic interpretation of the Quran and Hadtihs hasn't been updated in over 1200 years. Although Islam provides a way for system updates, the IT managers in charge feel threatened if end users begin updating Islam on their own. This is less about a particular faith. It's more about the idea of someone else telling you what a supernatural entity wants your life to be like instead of you deciding for yourself.

This is a NYT opinion piece from 1983 which is remarkably on point for the issues facing Islam today. It shows how 31 years ago, the religion's reliance on old interpretations and refusal to re-examine the source was a source of concern for Muslims.

 

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I'm glad that a large percentage of Muslims don't believe in suicide bombings. However, I'm quite appauled that a significant percentage of Muslims want me dead(I'm an apostate). I believe you are being selective. Who cares if a significant portion of Muslims reject suicide bombings. As long as they support violence in other forms (corporal punishment for thought crimes) we have a problem.

Individuals who have good intentions such as Ben Affleck shouting racist to anyone who doesn't subcribe to the "Islam is a religon of peace" mantra doesn't solve anything. I agree, there is a fine line between criticism and bigotry here. I despise people like Brigitte Gabriel and Pamala Gheller who do nothing but preach hate and division.

 

in several of those countries 30%+ support suicide bombings... not sure how that supports your argument, as that number is asinine!!! Nobody should be supporting that bullcrap man, and the fact that in several countries nearly 1/3 of the population supports suicide bombings is way too much!

 

I think an actor isn't the voice of intelligent counter point so let's put that aside.

I am only punching a hole through SJC's point around Muslims want us all dead. They just want you dead.

 

That's what, 10%? I bet you there are more than 10% in this country who would agree that all Muslims should be nuked.

You ignored my post because I pointed out the massive flaw in your rationale and how hypocritical it is to cherry pick information. You were the one who picked that survey, not me. You just spin things to meet your narrative, and it's a dangerous one that needs to be stopped. That's my conviction.

 

Link?

 

wouldn't really be a fair bet then would it

 

Oh, what an important discussion -- glad I missed it.

 

lmao at that map.

 

I wouldn't particulry trust these maps as foundations such as "American Jihad" are notorious for using the "guilty by association" or "6 degrees of separation" tactic, the same tactics were used by Michele Bachman when she accused Huma Abedin of being associated with the Muslim Brotherhood. In fact in the eyes of these sort of associations I would be considered a "jihadist" regardless of my Marine background as my father is aquanited with an individual whose son was charged with conspiring to comit terrorist actions. The kid was mentally instable.

 

I mean, to have to point out the horrible logic here is almost silly. It brings to question something about SJC.

Is SJC just a Basso spewing forth any spin or story he can find that supports his case relying on the lack of critical thinking as a means to persuade? Or is Sir Jackie Childs simply himself incapable of critical thinking?

Let's say he's not being disingenuous here and is just doesn't have critical thinking skills. Ok.

Map 1 of mosques: Shows where mosques are concentrated. Strangely enough, mosques tend to be concentrated in high population density states which also have the largest number of immigrant Muslim populations. This clearly must be a coincidence.

Map 2 of Muslim Terrorism: Shows where all the terrorism is happening. This also very oddly enough happens to be in areas where a high concentration of immigrant Muslims reside.

False Conclusion - SJC Narrative: Mosques that are spreading the terrorism.

Reality: Terrorism is concentrated where there are ton of immigrant Muslims.

 

I am sure SJC will now meltdown and go into attack mode about my character and conviction and all that once I have shown him up here. Ok bring it on SJC. That's all you got as a retort to me. You'll never be able to win a debate with me and you know it, and that's why you always go back to the same tired character assassination you have for the PAST 7 YEARS!

Give it up man! Move on! That horse you have been beating for 7 years not only is dead, it's not there anymore!!!!

 

secondary sources : independent investigators and news agencies??


map must be legit, then.