Why do internal company recruiters have jobs? They expect you to talk to them during working hours. Their job is to find people to fill positions. If you want to try to hire busy people why don't you make it easy for them to talk to you. I am not a huge fan of recruiters, but at least the sourcing company recruiters try. They are actually trying to catch fish to feed their children. They are a little aggressive but I respect their hustle. These internal recruiters think you will bend to their will.
I have found the exact opposite to be true. Internal recruiters try harder to find qualified people. External ones won't even bother calling you back. External recruiters are beyond useless.
Tons of o&g companies have internal recruiters. This way HR can focus on being even more lazy while still making the big bucks.
That's funny. Not to mention, internal recruiters seem to mostly rely on employee referrals to do their job for them.
When you got a thousand resumes on your desk . . . .you tend to be a little lax Seriously . . . depending on the job . . . .there are alot of qualified candidates If Candidate A cannot make a little effort to work with my schedule and Candidate B will . .. . guess who gets the job Does it matter than Candidate A is marginally better than Candidate B In some jods . . that margin won't matter Rocket River
I agree 100%! I've had much better experiences with the internal recruiters...who contacted me out of the blue and not by employee referral.
Money isn't great in internal recruiting. You're capped and on salary. External recruiting equates to sales, it's uncapped so you can earn a lot or nothing. Internal recruits often have other HR job duties. There's less incentive for an internal recruiter to bend over backwards for a new hire unless it's a big position or one that needs to be filled asap. External recruiters want the commission.
i have found that midternal recruiters actually work harder internal, external, and nocturnal recruiters can EAD
The correct term is Corporate Recruiter, and yes... We call during business hours. I also email, and leave messages. Try really hard to preschedule a block of time to speak with candidates, and will even perform first interviews via video conferencing using Skype, Zoom, etc. So if after trying to do all of that you're still too busy to have a 10-15 minute conversation... Well, its like Rocket River said, I have thousands of applications on my desk. That was just my smug response to the smug tone of this thread. :grin: But I will bend over backwards for a candidate that I believe is worth it. I've more than once convinced hiring managers to stay with me and interview candidates as late as 6:30 PM on a Friday afternoon. Our office occasionally closes at 11:00 AM on Fridays, and I'm a Salary/Exempt employee. I'll work to accommodate a candidate that I believe is worth it. As would any other good HR professional. Not saying that you're not worth it OP. But stop hating on HR, we're not the people that you want as enemies.
I thought this was common knowledge If you piss off the gatekeeper (e.g. HR/Recruiter) then how do you expect to get through the door?
Question: Which sites do you . . An actual HR GUY . .. recommend Monster, Dice, Etc? I also notice . .. . If I change one letter on a resume all of a sudden I'm popular again Rocket River
I wouldn't. Nobody does any work on Fridays and you're out before lunch. You're already ready and can finish running errands and enjoy a proper weekend. 4.2 days every week is better than 5 full days every other. I've had both in the past and I prefer this. Edit: of course I commute less than a mile to work so maybe that's why. If I had to drive an hour to work then I would much rather have the 9/80
Let's now fast forward to the end of this process. You have traveled to the company for face to face interviews. You've taken the day off, you've gone through a grueling day of interviews. You might even flown across the country, so it may have involved two days. And that's the last you have heard from the company. No phone call. No email. No form letter. Sure, I understand there are thousands of candidates at the start of the process. Many who are minimally qualified. But at the in-person interview stage, what are we talking about... Three, maybe five at the most? Now who is too busy?
I applied to a position and got a call immediately to let me know they would call to schedule interview if the department was interested... 8 business days later..i got the call...then another 8 business days later after the interview..got another interview opportunity... haven't heard back after that. waiting for the 8th day..
We use Indeed and Simply Hired the most, Monster to a smaller extent due to its cost. I've always preferred Indeed because its and aggregator and pulls jobs from tons of different sites. Though we do post directly to Indeed. O&G/Petrochemical Refining. And yeah, it is amazing. But we don't do it all year. We're trying to get our leadership to cosign on more flexible schedules on a permanent basis, we'll get there eventually. 9/80 is a nice schedule. There's no better feeling than 4:45 PM on the Thursday before your Friday off. But few things can rival how much it sucks working that other Friday. Usually the office is dead and time drags. But I'd take it over a normal work week any day. Yeah, that's just disrespectful. I try really hard not to be guilty of that.
I am not trying to be smug. I just figure if your main job is to recruit you can try to be a flexible, but she eventually agreed to a time outside of work hours. I highly doubt you have thousands of resumes. I had to review 20 or so resumes we had for a position we were hiring for. Of those 20 maybe 4 were legit candidates. And that was after we used a corporate recruiter cause the initial batch of resumes we got didn't work out. That is why I didn't send her anything until I was more calm and instead ranted about it on cfans. I know if I piss her off then she might get me black balled.
