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Carville: 'Ted Cruz Is the Most Talented, Fearless Republican Politician I’ve Seen in 30 Years'

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bobmarley, May 6, 2013.

  1. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    I get a kick out of the routine. You show up, act like an ass, insulting everyone with your tone, arrogance, and attitude, someone then calls you an ass, and then you run to the insult card. It's like clockwork.

    I think we can agree you haven't been libeled and slandered and we can also agree the responses you've received aren't unwarranted.

    Your first post.

    Utterly stupid post. Obama destroying America.... LOL. Obama is a socialist, all evidence to the contrary, however Burger King is moving to an actual socialist country. Mixed message at best. US effective corporate tax rate is decidedly not among the worst anywhere, this is a constantly lied about talking point that is just nonsense. Akin to Republicans lying about the estate tax all the time. Liberals are destroying the American dream... LOL. Unemployment actually almost doubled under Bush and has gone down under Obama. As for participation rates, certainly the age of the work force has a significant bearing on that as well as the fact people don't need to work to get health insurance any longer. People actually have the freedom, I know you people looooove you some freedom, not to stay in a job they hate to have health insurance. In modern countries around the world that's called progress.

    Your second post.

    Reid nor Obama can obstruct what the House wants to do. The House does what it wants every day. Republicans however have in fact obstructed what the Democratic majority in the senate can accomplish. They have made a 60 vote majority the new requirement to pass ANYTHING. They have set all time fillibuster records which is the very definition of obstruction. It's preposterous that you've attempted to portray it some other way. Shame on you for the odd rant and losing touch with reality.

    Man made global warming is a scam, all evidence to the contrary. Plants love them the warm weather, that's why Saudi Arabia has such a long growing season no doubt. That's why plants have been growing so well with all the drought in the US and Mexico. Oh right, when warm gets warmer that's not good for plants now is it? Anyway, why is there a coming ice age? Not enough CO2 into the atmosphere I reckon. Haha


    Your third post.

    This ridiculous post is after you've claimed Obama is destroying America, liberals are destroying the American Dream, and global warming is a hoax and scheme to shift wealth. Hint, this is the garbage you spouted.
     
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  2. False

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    It doesn't take anything to declare their marriage invalid and there is no need to challenge in court. The marriage was invalid at the time due to the prior marriage. In some states, if that prior marriage is dissolved then the invalid marriage would become valid from the point of dissolution, but even so that does not appear to affect Obama as all signs point to his father having still been married to another person in his home country at the time of Obama's birth. There is no way that USCIS would find his mother to have had a valid marriage and it is patently unreasonable for you to assume validity of marriage.

    In your initial determination of what law to apply to Obama, you assumed a valid marriage just the same as you assumed that his mother did not have 5 years of presence after age 14. One of your assumptions appears to be correct - that his mother did not have 5 years of presence. Your other assumption was incorrect and resulted in you making a rookie mistake.

    Let me remind you again what your initial understanding was:

    You applied the wrong law to reach the wrong conclusion. The law that would apply is the law that applies to individuals born out of wedlock to U.S. citizen mothers. She only had to continuously reside for 1 year as such it is untrue that simply assuming he was born in the foreign country that he would not acquire citizenship by operation of law. Own your mistake and move on.
     
  3. houactuar

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    The Obama polygamy was unknown to the courts or registrar of marriages at the time Anna Dunham became Anna Obama. So from that perspective the marriage was legal. Also, to contest a contract of marriage, there is a statue of limitations which has long since expired. Therefore, as of 1960, the marriage was valid per the registrar of marriages in Hawaii and what was known to them at the time of the marriage. I don't think you have standing to challenge the legality of the marriage, and frankly the wife in Africa consented to the polygamy which may in fact be viewed as tacit dissolution of the prior marriage.
     
  4. houactuar

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    I don't have much time for your nonsense today, but let me address one point.... If the nominal and/or effective tax rate of your argument is so low in the United States why oh why would Burger King want to invert its corporate domicile to Canada? Do they want to escape the low effective tax rates of the US to pay higher taxes in the "more socialist" nation to the North? Please do explain your reasoning. This should be good.
     
  5. Nook

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    Who cares?

    Obama has been elected President of the United States twice and clearly has not betrayed his duty as President.

    This thread is about Ted Cruz being a modern day Joseph Goebbels.
     
  6. houactuar

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    I've not read the book "dreams of my father," but among the dreams listed does it include having sex with 17 year old coeds and taking multiple wives or baby mommas to make kids you abandon and see maybe once or twice? Seems like that was Obama seniors dreams, that and driving while intoxicated. Does a nut fall far from the tree?
     
  7. houactuar

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    I think the poster known as false, apropos, I suppose cares.

    As for the modern day goebbels, that would be mr carney, wh press secretary concerning all the Obama scandals.
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

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    Apparently so, since Obama has only been married once, and only has children with one mother, nor has he been arrested for DUI.

    Also, earlier, you incorrectly called Obama socialist. Obama is far from a socialist. We appear to disagree on that. Would you list the socialist programs Obama has enacted?

    My only thoughts on Cruz, are that he must be smart. I just haven't really seen him show much of those smarts yet. As a southerner, I feel like Cruz is a disgrace to the South.
     
  9. Felixthecat

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    I'm convinced this guy is bat **** crazy.
     
  10. False

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    Let me in to you a little secret, whether the court knew of the bigamy at the time of marriage is irrelevant as to whether it was a valid marriage. Additionally, there is no statute of limitation for a bigamous marriage. And finally, standing is irrelevant and whether someone consented to a bigamous marriage is irrelevant to whether the marriage is valid or not. Immigration isn't going to say "well I guess our hands our tied because your bigamous marriage occurred X year ago." You have no clue about how our family or immigration laws work. As much as I feel a strong sense of schadenfreude seeing you flail around and throw legalese out of context, I'm sorry bro, even assuming that Obama was born outside the United States, you applied the wrong law and reached the wrong conclusion :(.
     
  11. houactuar

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    Your conclusions, as usual, are wrong. There was never any court determination that the Obama marriage was invalid.
     
  12. houactuar

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    Try and keep up. The Obama referenced above in those remarks is the Obama senior, the adulterous polygamist who killed others and himself in DUI accidents, not the junior, Barry the pot head who snorted coke in Hawaii and associated with terrorists like Bill Ayeres.
     
  13. houactuar

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    As for a socialist program, you have obamacare which subsidizes health insurance all the way up to 400% of the federal poverty level. Only socialism would think it necessary for a family of four that makes over $90,000 per year should be subsidized. Nothing wrong to have programs like Medicaid that provide a safety net for people in need. But when you start redistributing wealth to people making up to 4 times the poverty level, that's pure socialism.
     
  14. houactuar

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    Tomorrow, Scotland will vote whether they will secede from the uk. Novel idea, that a people should govern themselves or consent to be governed, isn't it. I mean we should probably still be a colony of the uk as well, should we not? I suppose if Scotland votes for independence, you would support the uk to invade and kill 700,000 people? And you might as well support Putin in his quest to put down Ukrainian independence? You might want to review the constitution and the Declaration of Independence before claiming that Lincoln's invasion of Southern states and the slaughter and destruction by Sherman and other scorched earth generals was justified.
     
  15. Rashmon

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    houactuar, you should gather your posts in this thread and turn them into a legal brief for presentation to the Attorney General. It is clear that you are on to something that legal scholars have overlooked in the last two presidential elections.
     
  16. houactuar

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    It does help. I mean to the world, any rational person must appear crazy. The world we live in is like a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, yet signifying nothing. Yet speaking the truth, as I do, is beautiful. Like a Rose. And would it not smell as sweet if called by another name? Calling truth bat **** crazy makes it no less true. Your insults based on hate and ignorance that lack any reason are like water rolling off a ducks back.
     
  17. houactuar

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    The attorney general? Lol! Eric Holder is a political puppet with no regard or respect for the law.
     
  18. Rashmon

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    You could wait for the next GOP AG in 2024.

    You know, after Hillary's two terms.
     
  19. A_3PO

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    Mods, this thread has been single-handedly nuked. It wasn't exactly loaded with vibrant discussion before, but at least one Cruz apologist made it worthwhile.

    Maybe it needs a restart.
     
  20. Deji McGever

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    Scotland might have significant strategic oil reserves, but I wouldn't authorize an invasion of the UK just yet by US forces until we can be certain that Scotland is ready for democracy.
     

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