Cyberx: Which four point guards is Plowman talking about? Sorry to be a pest. Someone Else: Bledsoe, Dragic, Rubio, Rondo. Cyberx: Well, Rubio then, he won't be expensive to get. (Never mind that this is more a reflection on my dislike of the player than on any real information I have on the subject, given the fact that Flip Saunders probably won't want to get bent over after just trading away one of the best players in the league.) Cyberx disciples: We might get Rubio! Whether or not we want him! Proooooooooobably not, but I'm curious as to when is the Jason Terry press conference scheduled? (We can make the trade official in a couple days.) Why haven't we submitted Papanikolau's paperwork to the league office yet?
That would be tampering. And I haven't seen any news saying the rockets and dragic are in talks of coming here in 2015. Cyberx said he talked to dragic. Cyberx doesnt work for the rockets.
Maybe I overstated it. At least, then, did / will Morey send out a "welcome to Houston, Jason Terry" tweet? He might have done so but I don't think he did. Which is to say, Morey might be trying to swing a three-team deal (the Alonzo Gee - Jason Terry deal can become official soon), and if it doesn't work, then we're temporarily stuck with Jason Terry.
Don't think that Morey can say or tweet anything before a deal is official. Otherwise he might get fined.
With the news/speculation that Zoran will likely sign with PHX, it looks like Bledsoe will not be a Sun for very long, whether he signs the QO or a contract. I still think the best course for him is to sign a 2 year max contract with a partially guaranteed 3rd year. He gets his money and doesn't compromise his future earning potential, and the team with his contract gets some security.
His agent is an idiot, plain and simple. Bledsoe and Rich Paul were never in a position of real power going into RESTRICTED free agency, especially after the Suns signed Isaiah Thomas.
Exactly. So, once Jason Terry and his (not-really-wanted, even-by-Daryl-Morey, who-are-we-kidding, Morey-just-wants-the-2nd-round picks) $5.8 million is officially on the Rockets' payroll, I'll (probably, no promises) shrug and say, "Well, lock it up, boys, turn out the lights, let's bump this thread in December." Cyberx did mention Rich Paul leaves something to be desired on the agent front, maybe even in this same thread, back in its infancy, when the world was young and rays of hope burned brighter.
Rich Paul strikes me as the kind of guy who overbets on every single hand in a poker match. Sure, you'll win your fair share of pots by scaring off weaker players, but he gets gutted when he goes up against a shark. Right now, he's misplayed this situation so badly for Bledsoe, it's downright comical. Bledsoe should fire him if he wants to save any face.
I remember that too (both the comment from Cyberx and when this thread was an innocent little place). Bledsoe should have taken the 4/48 offer way back when and be done with it. Now him and his agent will either have to sign a crappy qualifying offer sheet or find a team that has enough assets to execute a sign and trade. Rich Paul definitely went to the Master P school of sports agency.
Not necessarily. The Rockets could hypothetically flip Terry by himself between his acquisition and the end of training camp for a higher-salaried player (or two) making up to almost $8.9 million.
I know we ideally would like an upgrade at point guard as would I. However, DM said that some signings would happen after the FIFA baketball tournament. Could he be referring to Andray Blatche? At the right price he could do a lot of good for this team.
I should sign such a crappy offer sheet. Oh, you mean relative to the outstanding offer denied for greater deals (de facto denied). find a team that has enough assets - - and willingness - - to execute a sign and trade.
Right. It's crappy because instead of getting the reported $12 million per for the next 4 years, what's his qualifying offer going to net him? Then he becomes an unrestricted free agent next year and will have to go back to the drawing board again, fishing for a $12+ million a year deal that he and his agents failed to get the first time around. I respect that Bledsoe wants to get paid but it's not like he was being offered a crap deal to begin with considering the injury histories and small sample size he has that would justify what he wants.
Players get paid for what they have done yesterday or what they are expected to do tomorrow. Market research is a basic component of an agent's efforts. So, why didn't agent Paul realize that the teams needing Bledsoe the most could least afford to acquire him? Next July will be a different story as The Knixies and The (oceanic) Lakes will have the need, and the wherewithal. But, there's a long way to go to get to next July.
No one said he was or would be approached by them now. The logical question for cyberx to ask would be about the Rockets' interest in him next summer, not about a possible trade scenario Phoenix is denying and cyberx hasn't confirmed.
According to my public twitter conversation with Larry Coon on June 11-13, 2013, this is not possible UNLESS we send out $5.7 million or more in the initial trade for Jason Terry OR unless we forego the Lin TPE and KPap signing and go under the cap to execute the original trade for Terry (which defeats the purpose). I specifically asked Coon about compounding 150%$ and +$5 million trades, using a hypothetical example at that time of trading Jeremy Lin ($8.37 million) for KG ($12 million) and then turning around and flipping KG for CP3 at the max. His response verbatim: 'No. That's a "stepping up the basis" trade that would be disallowed per the general prohibition on circumvention.' I then asked him: Where is "step up in basis" in the CBA? Coon's response: It's not. Nor are a lot of other things, like the Stepien rule. I then asked him: Is there a time limit before you can step up again, 60 days? Coon's response: "No, that sort of thing is a judgment call and part of the general prohibition against circumvention. If in the league's..............opinion a move was made in order to ciurcumvent the cap, the league would disallow it." I then commented to him: "I just don't read that in Article XIIICircumvention seems to me to be about paying players under the table, screwing w/contracts." Coon's response: 'Section 1 of that article covers it. "Exceptions to the salary cap" includes trade exception. "Assignment" means trade. Etc.' ------------------------------------------------------------- The above exchange with Coon is why I have become frustrated with the Circumvention Article in the CBA and I've complained grossly about it. You're an attorney. You know better than I do how ambiguous all the language in that Article is. It gives too much power to the league office to just do what they want without limitations and governance. And it leaves guys like us frustrated because we assume things like what you suggested above are possible when according to Coon (and I assume his inside league office sources or at least inside team sources) it is not legal.
