Those don't exist. There is no brand name of bullets called cop killer. It is like assault weapon, that is a political term, not one with an actual definition.
For me the thread was about are the people with the bad characteristics I listed drawn into law enforcement because of the nature of the job or does the job create these flaws. For instance Zimmerman wanted to be in law enforcement. That would argue they are drawn in. You said the low pay forces attract worse cops, that would be drawn in as well.
the job attracts the people who become fat, overworked, and who take anger out on good people. my neighbor is a cop and you can tell he needs more help. better help i mean not some dumbass north shore dropout. if government were run better then it would hire better people and pay more. if you look at cops in other places not all of them are fat. so we are doing something wrong.
I was referring to cop killer bullets. AP ammo exists but it is used mainly in 50 cal machine gun rounds and the armor is actual armor on vehicles. It isn't for vests and jackets. The small size and low velocity precludes handgun ammo from incorporating the steel or depleted uranium core to be inside the bullet. I think it should be easy to understand how a 13mm or 20mm bullet can have those cores a 9mm cannot have a steel core with a lead middle and a copper jacket while still being an effective projectile. I'm just trying to lay out the facts here as your post is dripping with sarcasm.
Actually it is not . . . I am no . . gun Enthuseist I only know what I hear around these parts I thought there were bullets design to penetrate kevler etc I am not of the mind that it maybe just movie magic and propganda I cannot imagine a cop would be 100% anything goes weapontry being allowed on the streets I could not imagine them being ok knowing that AKs, Bazookas or some other overly destructive sh** was in the hands of criminals and grandmothers alike. I maybe wrong . .. . . I know *I* am not pro- that stuff being out there not even in Policeman's hands. . . Rocket River
"Armor piercing" is a relative term. Most run of the mill ammo will penetrate the vests that police used in the 1930's. The bullets that they would stop, police can't even use anymore because departments condider them too "weak" to use - things like .32 and .380 APC. This was known as level I body armor. There have been several generations between then and now, and vests have gotten better along the way, but still, the level III+ vests that police currently use can be penetrated occasionally by some handgun bullets at close range. There is no such thing as "unbeatable" body armor. Most modern rifle bullets will go through police vests. Bullets are made of mostly lead, jacketed in steel. Making bullets out of solid steel (or better tungsten of uranium which are really heavy, don't deform like lead and do something called "self sharpening") makes them more likely to penetrate body armor. These are illegal everywhere in the world. I know some armies have experimented with small arms armor piercing ammo, but I don't know that any is in production anywhere. Small arms bullets with cores of anything other than lead were made illegal in the 1968 GCA. You can also do other things like with the shape of the bullet. There is a french design that I saw with a long, narrow needle point to the bullet, designed to poke through the weave of the kevlar. I've also seen other wierd shape, like one with a front that looked like a hex wrench. Nazis made armor piercing 7.62mm ammo by replacing the nitroglycerin propellant with PETN (easy to make explosive used by suicide bombers). The velocity of the exploding PETN is faster than nitro, so max velocity of the bullet is faster, which increases penetration. They also experimented with versions that added a very small PETN charge inside the core of the bullet. Essentially every modern rifle bullet will penetrate police - level body armor. To stop rifle bullets, you need to add rigid ceramic plates made from silicon boride, which has an insane hardness (but extreme brittleness and crumbles when shot) and is what soldiers use. It is why a soldier's body is so much more bulky and rigid. The police freaked out a few years ago about 5.7mm "SS192" ammo, which FN designed to be interchangeable between a handgun (FN Five-Seven) and auto rifle (FN P90) It was actually less powerful and less armor penetrating than most rifle bullets. It could penetrate police armor basically from point blank. But the cops freaked out so much that FN replaced all the "SS192" ammo with special low power "SS196" ammo that can't penetrate anything in the USA. Interestingly, Geneva Conventions don't outlaw armor piercing, but they do outlaw hollow point, which is what every cop uses in his gun. They perform worse than full metal jacket against body armor, but against bare flesh they basically "mushroom" out, essentially becoming bigger and causing more damage. Geneva Conventions consider them too cruel for use in war, I guess like mustard gas... The bottom line is that, in most cases, "armor piercing" is a relative term. There are some extreme cases where is is an actual design goal, but that is not the type of armor piercing ammo people talk about when talking about ammo that needs to be made illegal. And again, essentially every modern rifle bullet is "armor piercing" for police vests at close enough range.
It's truly ****ed up what the US justice system looks like nowadays. Police intelligence targets cash
