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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Two Sandwiches, Jul 11, 2014.

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  1. King901

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    Soon grasshopper, soon.
     
  2. bratna8

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  3. Do WHAT?

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    I cannot wait for the day this thread goes away and the new topic is ...
    Can you believe Morey was able to pull that trade off? :grin:

    Each time I see a new post, I'm hoping there is something relevant - but nope, same old stuff.
     
  4. delishman

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    The EMAIL cannot be sent.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Suns' Bledsoe remains final RFA on market. Agent has held firm on max contract or no deal. He couldn't get Bledsoe an offer sheet elsewhere.</p>&mdash; Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/508027194816593920">September 5, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  6. ROXTXIA

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    Weird. I edited the info; please try again. If it bounces back again, my apologies, but thanks for any effort.
     
  7. Roc Paint

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    Where is my friend Plowman?
     
  8. Do WHAT?

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    He will be back ..... Soon :cool:
     
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    Hmm Both Rubio and Bledose want the Max

    Will Morey bite? I think not
     
  10. Aleron

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    So does Rondo, and I'd guess Dragic too
     
  11. ROXTXIA

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    Until a trade occurs? My guess would be in Witness Protection.
     
  12. don grahamleone

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    Trailer Park Boys Season 8 came quicker than the big offseason trade.
     
  13. NL Rocket

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    The rumors about interest in an Eric Bledsoe sign-and-trade deal are just weird since the Rockets don’t have the contracts eligible to be traded that would make a contract he’d sign possible. The Celtics still appear in no hurry to move Rajon Rondo, having always seemed more interested in a replacement star than a pile of picks.

    http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2014/09/rockets-deal-for-terry-about-more-than-hope-to-add-jet-propulsion-to-bench/?utm_source=http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=offpage-widget-dealer-spotlight&utm_content=http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2014/09/rockets-deal-for-terry-about-more-than-hope-to-add-jet-propulsion-to-bench/#25869101=0&26027103=0

    Still believe the 'insiders'?
     
  14. benchmoochie

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    so we got rid of the LIN threads, but we now have this thread. legit
     
  15. ROXTXIA

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    EDIT.
     
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  16. BimaThug

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    There is no such rule.

    You're just thinking of the regular salary-matching rules in that range. To trade for a max salary at Bledsoe's veteran level ($14.746 million), an over-the-cap team only needs to send out $9.764 million. Hypothetically, the Rockets could scrape that much salary together, without even having to use Papanikolaou.
     
  17. ROXTXIA

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    That's what I get for posting at 5 in the morning.

    For some reason I thought there was some CBA provision. Turns out it's just good old fashioned math. Maybe I was stuck on the old 85%…

    Thanks for stepping in.

    EDIT EDIT.

    This is what I was thinking of (even if I might have articulated it poorly during my semi-insomnia post of 5 am; I thought there had something to do with the signing of a max contract, my bad):

    Both Phoenix and Houston are non-taxpaying teams. So:

    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm

    84. How do simultaneous trades work? How much salary can a team take back in a simultaneous trade?

    A simultaneous trade takes place all at once. The amount of salary a team can take back in a simultaneous trade depends on the outgoing salary and whether the team is a taxpayer.1 They always use the post-trade team salary when looking at whether a team is a taxpayer, so a team under the tax level would be considered a taxpayer if the trade takes them over the tax level.2

    For non-taxpaying teams (again, they must be under the tax level after the trade), the salaries that can be acquired depend on the total salaries the team is trading away:

    Outgoing salary Maximum incoming salary

    $0 to $9.8 million 150% of the outgoing salary, plus $100,000
    $9.8 million to $19.6 million The outgoing salary plus $5 million
    $19.6 million and up 125% of the outgoing salary, plus $100,000

    So, to get a Bledsoe, if his first-year salary were $15,000,000 (no, he doesn't quite deserve it), we could send out only $10,000,000.

    So he's get-table. Maybe just depends on how much Morey wants to gamble. Or if Bledsoe is even his main target (there's certainly a list---"I'll contact all the teams with vulnerable point guards situations, eventually an apple (or a turd) will shake free."
     
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  18. chandlerbang21

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    Screw bledsoe . average shooter and defender
     
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    It seems pretty clear that Bimathug and other cap people here have confirmed the Rockets can match salary with any of the players they are "reportedly" pursuing. Yet all the sources outside have it the other way. For example, on the BS Report Zach Lowe said the Rockets have to include Ariza if they want to get Rondo.

    My only guess is that all these reporters are just ignoring the fact that we have Gee, Hopson, and Powell as non-guaranteed contracts to be moved around for salary matching.
     
  20. Aleron

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    Ignore? no, they haven't looked and have just gone with the first thing they heard.
     
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