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Another terrible jobs number

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bigtexxx, Sep 7, 2012.

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  1. white lightning

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    Could the lower labor participation be related to people quitting jobs they only needed for health insurance? Thanks Obama!
     
  2. Mr. Clutch

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    You think 100% of the long term unemployed are their by choice? I'm sure some are, but a lot are there because they were short term unemployed who couldn't find jobs as a result of insufficient demand.
     
  3. Mr. Clutch

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    Well of course nothing has happened in 5 years when we have had insufficient demand. My argument is increase demand through stimulus and some of that long term unemployment will go down. Not all, but a significant amount.

    Here is a Krugman discussion on the matter.

    http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/?s=long+term+unemploym+participation
     
  4. Major

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    Not at all - but we're talking about a change in the LPR, not an increase in the involuntarily long-term employed. A dropping LPR may be a bad thing in some months, but it may also not be in other months. And in the long-term, it's expected that the LPR would be dropping - so using that as some kind of absolute negative is silly.

    Agreed - just another GOP meme that's proving totally false.
     
  5. bingsha10

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    The economy doesn't need more ditchdiggers and then all will be well. It needs accurate prices that reflect the true availability of resources.

    But the stock market keeps hitting all time highs! Thanks QE!
     
  6. Major

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    It doesn't need ditch diggers - but if there are a bunch of necessary construction projects lined up over the next several years, why not accelerate them to today? It won't add any long-term cost and it creates momentum in the economy.

    I've never understood why this isn't done regularly - government construction spending should always be done during slow economic periods when prices of labor and materials are cheaper, and never during booms when labor and materials are more expensive (except for vital projects).
     
  7. SamFisher

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    What would it take to cause an inflation truther/Paulista nutjob like yourself to actually do a bit of self evaluation that would result in a move towards reality?

    You're going on about 5 years of being outrageously dead wrong. 10 years? 20? Or is it just never - you'll go to your grave with your gold bars and Zimbabwean dreams.
     
  8. Mr. Clutch

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    Solid numbers today.
     
  10. mc mark

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    More terrible jobs numbers


    Obama Shatters Clinton’s Record For Private Sector Job Growth

    The Department of Labor announced Friday that the economy added 142,000 jobs and the unemployment rate dropped (little change) to 6.1%. The private sector has added 10 million jobs over 54 straight months, with private businesses adding 134,000 jobs in this report. President Obama has shattered Bill Clinton’s previous record of 51 consecutive months of private sector job growth. This is an extension of the longest streak on record for private sector job growth and it happened under a Democratic President.
     
  11. TheRealist137

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    Wow...


    shut this thread down.


    bigtexxx = pwned!
     
  12. bigtexxx

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    Why is the labor force participation rate declining, bigtexxx? The deeper article you posted doesn't cite a reason. What's the real story?
     
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    Was this the real story that texx was referring to?

     
  17. dandorotik

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    I want to know in which world going from 10.0% to 6.1% is negative. When it gets to the point that we can't even examine the most obvious numbers, there is no more discussion. This is what I'm talking about with the extremists- and I can't fathom how some can get to that point.

    There is no one who can read this and make the determination that things haven't gotten better without being a liar. There's no disputing this:

    http://www.miseryindex.us/
     
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    yes it is. what point are you trying to make? Does it not concern you that more and more people are giving up trying to find a job?

    when it comes from people leaving the workforce as opposed to getting a job.
     
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    educate yourself, don't allow a manipulable number and political bias cloud your judgment
     
  20. fallenphoenix

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    you're making a lot of judgments based on this "manipulable number." if it's bad you believe it, if it's good, then it's manipulated.
     

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