From only a US perspective, if we just do a cold calculation without any emotion attach to it.... the 3K death and financial loss of the 911 attack is peanuts compare to the deaths and financial loss of the American response. Our Western way of life was much more impacted by the response than by the actual attack itself. Not at all saying that no response is the answer, but I hope we are smarter and more calculated about what, when, and how we response.
Why are people educated in Europe countries much more likely to follow Islam vs people educated in the United States? And even the Muslims in the US are generally more moderate in their view than their counter parts in Europe?
Derp. I'm gonna say this has more to do with migration patterns of people with Muslim backgrounds. The UK is easy to move to from Pakistan than say....moving from Pakistan to Florida.
You have made zero arguments for any other NATO or UN member to involve itself militarily. .. and that's an indefinite pronoun ... Why? So, should the US get involved in all those or not? You said you don't want US involvement (above), but then you provided list of atrocities across the globe that, in your opinion, demand US troops. A round of applause, everybody, ATW finally made it click.
It has to do with selection of immigrants. It's harder to get into the USA and they are very selective in their criteria of whom they let in (the level of education of the people who were let in has to be much higher on average, which still doesn't mean that you don't have plenty of sleepers and Islamists in the USA - heck, there are some on this forum who live in the USA, and there are people like the Siddiqui family with ties to Houston, one of which is in jail as a known Al Qaeda terrorist). Leftist governments in Europe have made the huge mistake of basically letting everyone in, and branding everyone who dares to question anything a Muslim immigrant does or the Islamic ideology promotes immediately a Nazi. That led to ghettos e.g. in France and England, but to some extent also in Germany, where there is no respect for the constitution of the country or its laws and citizens, and where "values" from Pakistan and the Middle East were imported instead, such as no respect for non-Muslims, no respect for women, and so on
Your reading comprehension is lacking and your frustration with your intellectual inferiority is showing. Your desperate attempts at being funny are a failure as well. Bye.
The Taliban was famous for virtually eradicating poppy in Afghanistan. It didn't return until after we invaded.
They had some eradication program around 2000, but they changed their strategy and have been hugely benefitting from the drug trade. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/01/afghanistan-opium-production_n_5246266.html
Yes, when they had control of the country, they were able to eradicate poppy. Since our invasion, poppy has again taken over as the primary cash crop. Still, this invalidates your position that there is necessarily a link between violent Islamists and narcotics. That is a marriage of convenience, not of ideology.
Eh, where did I say that there is an ideological link? Nothing you posted invalidates anything. It is known that drug trade is a big cash cow for the Taliban and that Islamists were active in the Foz de Iguazu drug trade. That's all I said. The only thing that is invalidated is the notion that your reading comprehension is up to par.
LOL, I guess you didn't mean to imply that, as a general rule, "violent Islamists" fund their activities with the drug trade. This is ONLY true of the groups that operate outside the bounds of an established, recognized government. Of course, this is true for nearly every organization which operates outside the bounds of legal trade in the country in which they operate, it has nothing to do with Islam at all, it is simply a reality for groups which operate outside the law. One of their primary sources of funding is the drug war and the profits it creates. You don't even seem to understand what you're implying with your statements, but I'm the one whose reading comprehension isn't up to par? ROFL, you sure are unintentionally hilarious.
They also fund them through a war on drugs! http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/how-washington-funded-taliban today's freedom fighter, tomorrow's terrorist. Makes me wonder what will happen to the Kurds and their Western arms when some of them decide to take the fight to Turkey, and rewrite Sykes-Picot for Kurdish Kurdistan. Also makes me wonder how the frantic do-something nowers will get their ass kicked in by irony. "WE MUST---DO SOMETHING. ANY NUMBER OF THINGS. SOMETHING ABOUT THAT TERRIBLE GROUP. SOMETHING NOW NOW NOW NOW SO WE DON'T GET VOTED OUT OF OFFICE!"
Surviving an ISIS Massacre ISIS massacred hundreds of Iraqi military recruits in June. Ali Hussein Kadhim survived. This is his improbable story. Video at the link: http://www.nytimes.com/video/world/middleeast/100000003077656/surviving-isis-massacre-iraq.html Kojirou, please pay special attention. You have questioned some of the atrocities that ISIS has been accused of. People are not making this crapola up - it is happening.
More, from a special session before the UN Human Rights Council: Human Rights Council opens Special Session on the Human Rights situation in Iraq The Human Rights Council today opened its twenty-second Special Session on the human rights situation in Iraq in light of abuses committed by the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) and associated groups... Leila Zerrougui, Special Representative of the Secretary-General for Children and Armed Conflict, said the most reported violation by ISIL was the killing and maiming of children: 693 child casualties had been reported since the beginning of the year. There were reports – both verified and as-yet unverified – of children, especially young boys, being executed by armed opposition groups including ISIL, of schools and hospitals being destroyed and of young girls from minority groups being abducted for the purposes of sexual violence and forced marriage. Ms. Zerrougi expressed deep concern over reports of the recruitment of child soldiers, including in some cases to be used as suicide bombers. She also stressed the dire situation of the 1.2 million displaced people, of whom half were children... ...The terrorists of ISIS started by committing massacres in Mosul, they went on to kill 1,000 Turkmens, including 100 children. They then targeted the Christians of Mosul and Nineveh plain, resulting in over 100,000 displaced persons. They took over churches, burning historical manuscripts and destroying religious places of worship and historical sites. The terrorists committed a horrendous assault against Yazidis in Sinjar, killing, raping and burning, and selling Yazidi women. Over 250,000 Yazidis had been displaced in one of the worst crimes seen in the world. In another massacre, ISIL captured 1,700 military people, disarmed them and executed them, throwing their corpses into rivers which became mass graves... Today the total number of internally displaced persons was 1.4 million people. ISIL compounded their crimes by filming them and posting them on social media, as seen in the execution of the kidnapped journalist James Foley... Full report at the link: http://www.ohchr.org/en/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=14984&LangID=E
So you're cool with a terrorist army carving out a caliphate in the middle east and ultimately murdering hundreds of thousands to millions of people? OK, just as long as we know where you stand on it.
More, from Amnesty International: IRAQ: ETHNIC CLEANSING ON HISTORIC SCALE: THE ISLAMIC STATE’S SYSTEMATIC TARGETING OF MINORITIES IN NORTHERN IRAQ Long, detailed report at the link documenting several massacres and other war crimes: http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/MDE14/011/2014/en/1af20d2f-501a-4d5d-b7fc-b52719e8dfdf/mde140112014en.html I mean, I know this stuff isn't all that important to guys like Northside Storm, but... Some of us think that this crapola needs to stop.
Human Rights Watch, documenting the massacres in Tikrit: Iraq: Islamic State Executions in Tikrit New evidence about executions carried out by the Islamic State (IS) in Tikrit after it seized the city in June 2014 triples the estimated death toll and shows additional execution sites, Human Rights Watch said today. Information from a survivor and analysis of videos and satellite imagery has confirmed the existence of three more mass execution sites, bringing the total to five, and the number of dead to between 560 and 770 men, all or most of them apparently captured Iraqi army soldiers. Full report at link: https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/09/02/iraq-islamic-state-executions-tikrit
