Around the Horn: Boston will trade Rondo because Rondo wants out

this why i dont post here a lot, fam. X_X

 

I'd rather have Rubio. He needs a change of scenery and does everything the Rockets need accept shoot or finish well. However, I wouldn't worry about creating offense or making buckets with a Rubio/Harden front court.

 

^^Backcourt.

 

Rubio is a homeless version of Rondo.

 

Rox shoot the most 3's in the NBA and people want Rondo at PG?
A 25% career shooter from 3?

We need a catch and shoot specialist from 3.
Harden likes to handle the ball a LOT. If I was opposing coach, I'd leave Rondo open at the arc all day and double on James.

In addition, Rondo is a 67% FT shooter? Doesn't bode well to have him and DH on the floor during the 4th Q does it?

Throw in the fact that he's a cancer in the locker room and there doesnt' seem to be too many positives here.

 

CASE CLOSED

 

You know what I would do as the Rockets coach? Pass the ball to Rondo and let him penetrate the paint. A free run in the paint by Rondo basically always results in points, either he passes to the open man if someone comes over to help or he finishes himself.

I know we shoot a lot of 3s, but it's not the only thing yoou can/should do, if you are open at the 3 point line.

With Rondo we would have to change our game in a variety of ways - just as we had to do with Howard. But it's not extremely difficult to make it work.

 

Evan Turner agreed to terms with the Celtics back in July but hasn't officially signed yet.

Not including Turner the Celtics have 17 players under contract at 78.77M

3 players are fully ung'teed & can be waived. So that's 14 players at 71.75M

Rondo, Smart *6th pick*, Pressey
Bradley, Thornton, Young *17th pick*
Green, Wallace, (Evan Turner)
Bass, Sullinger, Olynyk
Zeller, Faverani, Anthony

∴ a 6 players for 1 trade can be done (20 player roster limit)

A possible trade package is Gee, Hopson, Powell, Covington, Canaan. Plus one of either Jones, or Donuts, or Capela.

In another deal the Lin TPE for Bass (expiring contract) as an additional trade sweetener.

The Celtics' main incentive here would be to save 17.22M. Money their owner isn't obligated to spend as they are well above the minimum payroll of 56.759M.

Smart, Pressey, Canaan
Bradley, Thornton, Young
Green, Wallace, (Turner)
Sullinger, Olynyk, (Jones, or Donuts, or Capela)
Zeller, Faverani, Anthony

What other team needs an upgrade at PG? Are in a win now situation? Then has either the trade assets or means to give the Celtics a salary dump?

 

We now have a catch and shoot specialist from 3 in Troy Daniels. Daniels is probably going to get off about 400 3-balls this coming season. In addition to Daniels we have also added another catch and shoot specialist at SF in Trevor Ariza. Those 2 guys are going to eat up all the 3-ball shots that Lin and Parsons took....... and then some.

We're also going to wind up with a much more effective shooter at the 4-spot that will chew through another couple hundred 3-ball shots at somewhere between 36-44%.

The greatest need this team has at present is to flip the steals/turnovers metric. We have been the worst team in the league in both categories. That simply means more ball hawking on the perimeter and the ball needs to be taken out of Hardens hands more often since his and Dwight's turnover ratios are horrendous.

The problem with Lin was he was a high turnover guy too along with being a poor defender and mediocre spot up shooter.

So we've already replaced Lin's and Parsons' 3-point shooting but we haven't replaced their playmaking. And we've already upgraded our ball-hawking some with Ariza. We need to complete the upgrade with a ball-hawker at the 1 that can also run the offense and cut turnovers. It would be an added plus if that guy could spot up shot the 3 ball as well but not a great priority if that guy has 3 other shooters around him at the 2,3, and 4 spots.

Rajon Rondo running a pick and roll offense here with Harden, Ariza, Dwight, and a true corner 3 shooter at the 4 would be absolutely devastating, even more so than that Celtics championship team, simply because there would be even more space for him to operate in.

This scenario is even better with Rubio since Rubio is younger, a better defender, and a better shooter than Rondo.

Adding a premier point guard like Rubio, Rondo, or Goran is going to mean a shift in our offense for it to have maximum effectiveness. It would mean moving Harden off the ball for stretches of the game while a better ball handling point guard initiated up top. Harden could then shift to running the offense when we took out the point guard in favor of Daniels or Beverley, and he could run downhill with more space against the opponent's second units.

We need a playmaker at the 1 right now much more than we need a spot up shooter.

 

This^^^^^^

 

So we going to give them non starters and 3rd string players for a STAR ? Lol

& bass isn't salary dump, he's better than any PF on the rockets roster currently. Elite midrange, free throw, defense, playoff experience vet.

 

NO Bro... We have a three point shooting team, everyone one has to make threes.... Threes Threes Threes! Even McHale has to make threes.... Why? Because Rockets shoot more threes than anyone else that's why... What's "driving in" ? Is that when a player drives in a three? Because we need THREES!

^Every dumb@ass who does not want Rondo or Rubio......

 

Just because there's an internet gif of something doesn't make it true.

Spoiler

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/c...hink-you-know-about-rondos-shooting-is-wrong/

 

The concern with Rondo is his health more than his game

 

No, it's T. Jones & $17 million.

Again name another team that needs a PG and what they have to give up.

The Celtics shopped Bass hard last season and there were no takers.

 

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/8/31/6089601/rajon-rondo-trade-request-celtics-rumors

 

Don't agree with you a 100% about Rubio, but agree with everything else. Good post. Dragic is probably perfect for this team, but Rondo has the playoff cred and experience (90+ playoff games under his belt) this young team lacks. Harden definetly needs a quarter or two during games where he can coast playing off the ball while saving his energy for the last 5 or 6 minutes of the 4th quarter when they need him to close. Also when a team fastbreaks as much as the rockets do, you tend to turnover the ball a bit more than most low scoring teams IMO. A true PG will definetly cut down on their turnovers.

 

if we're goin for a PG with no shooting but with playmaking, Rondo should be the man

 

Kind of amusing how the Celtics "weren't" interested in what we had to offer for Rondo back when there was talk of Asik being a key piece of a Houston/Boston deal for their All Star point guard, and now some of the top sports talking heads in Boston are lamenting that Asik ain't with Houston any longer to do the deal now that RR says he wants out and is picky about where he lands. Hell, Rondo isn't who I want us to get (give me Dragic, please, and Bledsoe if we can't get The Dragon), but as my dear departed mother used to say, "It's better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, son." If healthy, Rondo would be a huge upgrade at the one, just not the one I'm jonesin' for, for reasons that have been discussed here numerous times.

Yet we need to go all in for a run to at least the 2nd round of the playoffs, which is how you get to the WC Finals, getting to the WC Finals an accomplishment that would make this coming season a success by anyone's measure (and our ticket to the championship series if we won). Spending the next 2 seasons trying to build the "perfect" team around Dwight amounts to not taking full advantage of his remaining prime years, and Dwight may not want to hang around waiting on years of Morey macinations.

What to do, what to do! More to the point, what can we do?

 

If it is Rondo that arrives in Rocket red then please let it be with a preagreed contract extension.

If it takes the TPE for Bass to make it happen along with the preagreed contract extension then OK; BB is OK, decent mid-range and will compete at all times.

And wouldn't it be nice if he could be flipped (somehow) to Indy for the demanding and very capable David West?!!