American beheaded by ISIS, Obama makes remarks and then heads straight to the golf course

There are many Muslims that do not practice their faith regularly, are very westernized and believe in a seperation between church and state.

Indeed, there are many Muslims in Syria, Lebanon, USA and Western Europe that really are only Muslims in a cultural or historical sense. You are seeing young Muslims being secularized. Anyone that doesn't see it, hasn't been around enough Muslims or visited enough countries with sizable Muslim populations.

Secular Muslims should not be grouped in with extremists or fundamentalists. The last thing we want to do is make secular Muslims feel like second class citizens.

The problem now is that there are too many radical Muslims, even though they do not make up the lion share of the population. We need to get the majority of secular Muslims on board with the West on how to deal with the threat in the Middle East.

 

British intel identify Foley killer as former London rapper

 

You're assuming she's targeting secular Muslims as her audience in some Conservative contortion of liberal guilt.

It's more like she's stoking the emotional and basic flames against a minority group so that actions against that group is either shouted down or silently condoned.

 

I'll be happy to back mine up when you back up some of the unsupported statements you have made over the years.

 

It wasn't exactly an "early exit," it was fully planned by Bush and the Iraqi government. Hardly "early" at all.

 

Early in the sense that Iraq was not yet prepared to defend themselves....you can tell that it's now seen as a bad thing because people are now "crediting" Bush with it when they had been crediting Obama for it previously.

 

On time in the sense that Iraq didn't want to allow any Americans to stay in country unless they could be tried in Iraqi courts. Obama, rightly so, said f*** that and gave them what they asked for, with predictable results.

What would you have preferred, that Americans were subject to the "justice" in Iraqi courts or that Obama took down a second Iraqi government in less than a decade because they couldn't handle their own defense, but didn't believe that?

Those were the options, which would you have picked?

 

I wouldn't have given them a say in the matter, IMO that's better than having to pull out, then go back in to clean up their mess, then pull out, then go back in to clean up their mess, then pull out, then go back in.....

I don't listen to children when they say they can do adult things even if they really really think they can.

 

So, you would have continued the occupation against the wishes of the Iraqi people as well as their government. I suppose that could have worked, given how well things were going when we DID have the support of the government and a significant portion of the Iraqi populace.

(there isn't a in the whole world big enough to express the level of fail in the quoted statement)

 

Because he was a candidate for President of the United States?

You're such a biased partisan, nothing more than a little b!tch.

 

what? almost the entire time we were there (after the first couple of years), the Iraqi people wanted us out...

 

No, there were large portions of the populace, particularly the Shia who were oppressed under Saddam, who wanted us there. The Iraqi government wanted us there. Once those bases of support were gone, the only way to continue to have a presence was to overthrow the government that we installed and install one that would allow us to stay.

Some of you are really good at ignoring facts and history.

 

ROFLOLOLOLOLOL

I never said any such thing, your bias seems to be clouding your ability to perceive what people say.

Obama was definitely politically motivated, HE IS A FREAKING POLITICIAN, FOR F***'S SAKE. However, he had a treaty signed by his predecessor that he was obligated to follow. Had he broken it, you and the others in the echo chamber in which you exist would have gone apoplectic about how Obama was breaking international treaties unilaterally, as Bobbythesilly says he should have done (and would be singing a different tune if Obama had actually done that, due to his ODS).

Projection, b!tch, look it up.

 

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5717157?utm_hp_ref=tw

http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn...ignificant-terrorist-organization-weve-faced/

 

Awwww, are bigpuffery's little feelings hurt?

I guess when you run out of echo chamber statements to parrot, this is all you're left with.

 

When rationality and salient points fail to make an impression, cussing and insulting is just showing your frustration with stupidity.