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Black Cop Kills Unarmed White Youth

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Anas acuta, Aug 22, 2014.

  1. krnxsnoopy

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    This is candid and refreshingly honest; whether or not I agree with some or all of your examples.

    The truth is, everyone has prejudices based on their own experiences. A white man getting jumped and mugged by 3 black men, will hold certain personal views as a result. A black man getting beat by 3 white police officers, will hold certain personal views on white police officers. A woman who was sexually assaulted or raped, will cross the street if she is walking alone on an empty street, and she sees two intimidating men walking in her direction.

    Likewise, favorable and positive interactions with people "different from us" will increase the trust we will naturally have for people that are "not like us". This is just human nature, whether you are white, black, asian, hispanic, purple, green, etc.
     
  2. Carl Herrera

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    The federal government got involved investigating the Ferguson situation because of the existence of possible federal law charges. Specifically, if racial bias was involved in the shooting, federal civil rights law allows charges to be brought by federal authorities (i.e. the Department of Justice).

    Moreover, given the distrust by the community against local law enforcement (as reflected in the protests and the rather poor handling of the protests by local police), it doesn't hurt to have another law enforcement agency that the community may trust more to look into the situation.

    Ultimately, the DOJ may not bring any charges against Officer Darren Wilson for the shooting of Michael Brown-- it just depends on what evidence is there and what the evidence points to. (Side note: The DOJ has still not decided whether any federal civil rights charges are to be filed against George Zimmerman in the Trayvon Martin case.)

    With the Salt Lake city situation referenced in the OP, unless there is some federal law charges to be brought, I am not sure how the DOJ is supposed to legally involve itself. Also, is there some reason to believe that law enforcement in the State of Utah and Salt Lake City cannot handle investigating this shooting by themselves?

    The situations are just totally different. The fact that the DOJ is investigating one but not the other (or at least not yet) does to indicate that somehow Obama only cares about black people shot by white police officers as you people want to believe.
     
  3. Rocket River

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    DOJ - won't do anything

    Rocket River
     
  4. JayGoogle

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    You have a real reading comprehension problem.

    If YOU have a problem with interracial dating means you don't want to see interracial couples. Means you have a problem with seeing a white woman with a black man.

    I'm sorry, that is racist. It likely means you hold the view that a black man isn't good enough for a white woman.

    It has NOTHING to do with who you are attracted to. It is asking if you have a problem with interracial couples.
     
  5. Anas acuta

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    Well everyone's entitled to their own wrong opinion...



    It's too much of a culture clash (for me). I was raised around black people. I work with black people. I went to high school with lots of black people (mostly poor ones at Texas City HS). I hang out with black people. I'm friends with them on Facebook. We follow each other on instagram. I train black people at work.

    I know how the black culture is. It isn't like mine. It wouldn't work out with a black girl. We wouldn't be able to get along. There are lots of black women i find attractive and would bang, but based on my life experiences I don't think I would be able to connect with a black chick on a deeper level.
     
  6. JayGoogle

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    My opinion is not wrong, you just are failing to even understand what I wrote.

    It's not about whether YOU would marry or date a black woman. It's about whether you'd find interracial dating and couples as something bad.

    That's usually a surefire sign to a racist. That the two races cannot mix because one is better than the other. It's pretty much what white supremacist thump these days. "Hey, we have no problem with black people...just don't date our people all I'm sayin"

    You also have no idea what "Black Culture" is, if so then please summarize what it is.
     
  7. Anas acuta

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    As I said, everyone is entitled to their own wrong opinion. You're putting thoughts into my head.

    It's a culture clash that I don't agree with. In YOUR opinion, I think my race is better. Not sure how you conclude that.

    For the most part black people are raised different. They have a different perspective of the world than white people. I've had the opportunity to intervene in lots of black folks' lives due to my career choice. And I have been around all races from all socioeconomic backgrounds. It's the same reason I couldn't be with a gal from India. Our beliefs, standards, expectations and how we perceive things are different. It's not worth the risk for me to date outside my race.

    And as unfortunate as it may be, my friends would treat me different if I married a black girl. I know I wouldn't have had the support from my family as much as I did marrying a white girl from a similar background. Based on all of the social factors alone, it isn't worth it to marry into a completely different race. I also don't think it's natural for a child to be brought into this world with parents who look different. You'll probably flame away, and cite examples of a successful multirace kid you knew who's a happily married CEO, but you know exactly what I'm talking about. We tend to associate ourselves with similar people. It's a natural instinct.
     
  8. Nook

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    While I don't agree with you on some points, I appreciate your frank honesty. I will only add that many of the barriers you speak of (culturally and otherwise) are really disappearing.
     
  9. DudeWah

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    I actually agree with some of the things you are saying.

    That being said, I don't think you are racist. I think you were just raised in a very ignorant way and that has left a lasting impression on you. Nothing wrong with that. But it definitely seems to be the case.
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    Also, this made me lol. That last line is just funny.
     
  10. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Or, you know, President of the United States of America.
     
  11. JayGoogle

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    No, you were talking about whether you'd date a black woman or not.

    That's not the question, the question is if you would damn interracial couples and frown upon them.

    If you want to date one race, nothing is wrong with that. If you see a couple like off the top of the head, Kanye and Kardashian and go "That's disgusting." that's almost the base of racism.

    All the racist groups think the same thing about interracial dating, that it is disgusting and shouldn't happen. Nazi's, KKK, you name it. Even the black ones.

    Didn't say YOU think that, I'm saying you did not read what I am saying correctly.

    Some black people are raised the exact same way as white people. I think how kids are raised is more than a race thing, more about a religion and region thing and has nothing to do with race.

    EVERY TIME I ask someone what is "Black Culture" they can never even describe it, not even a little bit.

    Nope, I don't know what you are talking about.

    My Cousin dated a white girl for a LOONG time. No one in the family had ANY problems with it. Her family had gatherings with mines, exchanged christmas presents etc etc

    My Brother dated a Hispanic girl for a LOONG time...same thing.

    So no, I don't know what you are talking about or don't think it is natural instinct. I think most people are smart enough to realize that skin color is just one determining factor in our complex genetic code.

    So if you truly do frown upon interracial couples and mixed children then I'm afraid whether you believe it or not, you have more in common with extreme prejudiced and racist people than you would like to admit to. No matter how many black friends you claim to have.
     
  12. PhatPharaoh

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    Not to be argumentative, but he never really answered your question about interracial couples, he merely stated that he wouldn't date a black woman. The two are completely different, although I would like to see his response to the question.
     
  13. Severe Rockets Fan

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    I too was raised around mainly black and hispanics. My family came to Houston from a horrible economy in Flint, MI in 74' with just $500 to our name. We lived in a poor neighborhood until I was about 14....me and my brother were beaten up and robbed by quite a few black dudes growing up...but whatever, I still have some close black friends today. Still, yep, many black folks are told by their parents to basically 'hate' white folks growing up , but bigoted blacks like Rocket River and others try to pretend like this isn't the case and white folks should just sit back and take it and it shouldn't be taken into account in any confrontation. But it is very real and has a huge effect on situations when things like this happen.

    Only a moron would pretend like this wouldn't continue to cause problems in a society trying to heal from the crap that happened from the passed down anger from slavery generations (yes it is still prevalent today) and butthurt feelings of white racists of the civil right era.

    So, should other races date black folks and put up with with black hatred and prejudice b/c of what happened in the past? Seriously, it seems like most folks on here simply ignore black hatred for whites and authority in general...but it's very real and it is a huge factor in situations like this.

    I agree that things need to change regarding racially profiling and white bigotry needs to be purged, but so does black bigotry....when black folks harbor hate and are taught by their parents to aggressively fight back it will continue to lead to this(not necessary this but other seemingly racist situations). It didn't end with the civil rights movement...hell, it'll probably continue way past our lifetimes...

    Still, it's just my opinion and probably unpopular here...but black folks need to quit pretending like all these issues are white peoples' faults...they are accountable themselves too.
     
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    Yeah I know, that's why I keep bringing it up. Because I never asked if he'd date a black woman or not.

    That's fine. People have their preferences.

    It's more about how he feels about interracial dating as a whole. People that frown upon that can usually be some pretty strong racists. People who see a interracial couple and have a problem with it. He did say that he thought a kid shouldn't have parents that looked different. Not sure why that is, humans have been mixing since they figured out how to walk and talk.
     
  15. DudeWah

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    I think there's a lot of times that not even black men would date black women. The modern societal image of black women tends to convey a group who seems to be more trouble than they're worth in a dating situation. There's at least some truth to that.

    On the flip side there's a lot of really cool black chicks I'd date. But they seem to be in the minority.
     
  16. Liberon

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    There are some diamonds in the rough. I see many attractive black women that just want to be an American Woman and not be tied to any race. Since I don't get along with members of my own race most of the time and they find themselves not fitting in anywhere as well, it does make us a match made heaven.
     
  17. Liberon

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    That might just be a key intercultural or interracial dating. Finding strays that don't give a damn.
     
  18. Anas acuta

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    Great example. He's not even a really "black." I'm more black than him. And don't tell me he earned that position on merit. It took "cousin Pookey" making it out to the polls for the first time in his life to vote for someone solely because he "looks like me." But blacks ain't racist....lol

    Also, the GOP ain't exactly trying real hard...running the clowns out there they have been...


    To no one in particular:
    You can't tell me, if you're out at a social gathering, and see a white person holding hands with a black person, you don't notice. As much as we wished (me included) we were all one race, one human being, it isn't the case. We are different. Different races have different cultures and I've been exposed to enough to realize this. Whether we accept it or not, as a whole, our race signifies who we are. Race differentiates us from one another. People who claim to "not notice race" is a liar.
     
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    I love it when the deep thinkers of Clutchfans get on a roll.
     
  20. rimbaud

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    Of course people notice. I notice and I generally enjoy seeing interracial couples (not just white/black). I want more more more race mixing. Race mixing will solve many of the world' ills. You, apparently, notice and don't like it. Oh well, your loss.

    If you ever see me and my wife (different race, culture, immigrant family, oh my!) and kids I hope you point out how different and possibly wrong we are. That would be cool.
     

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