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Why do we still call darker skinned Americans "African American"?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sajan, Aug 22, 2014.

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  1. amaru

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    Ok, thanks for the sourceless history tidbit.
     
  2. amaru

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    Way to stereotype buddy.
     
  4. bigtexxx

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    So Obama wouldn't be considered African American? There weren't any slaves on his father's side. And his white half's ancestors owned slaves!

    Your argument also falls apart, given how many immigrants there are from Africa post-slavery...
     
  5. amaru

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    According to the congressional definition of the term "african-american", he would be. They basically view the term as a catch all for any person of "black african" descent who is a US citizen. But Obama and his heritage are of little concern to me.

    How does my "argument" fall apart based on how man immigrants there are from Africa post-slavery? Legally they are considered African-Americans, but most reject the label with good reason. My mother are I also reject it for similar reasons.

    But that probably too much for you to comprehend.
     
  6. Nook

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    There is a major cultural difference between someone African American and an immigrant from Ethiopia or another region in Africa. It is like saying an American white kid from the suburbs is the same as a Croatia Muslim immigrant.

    The term African American has a distinct meaning, and if you travel often outside the USA you will see the differences. The culture of former African slaves is very rich, entrenched and unique. Those commonalities are noted as "African American".
     
  7. Nook

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    #1 It doesn't matter
    #2 Currently 40% of food stamp users are white and 33% black, if you adjust for population, it is FAR more likely for a black person to be on food stamps.

    It isn't a surprise either, as historically black Americans have been economically lagging behind whites, and virtually the entire historic power structure of the USA has been ruled by white males.
     
  8. Dairy Ashford

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    Well, it's really just trying to use a more formal and culturally aware term than black, but the two allusions to having disjointed heritage due to being bought and sold at every generation and Africa being too pre-administrative to have countries or city-states of any kind are correct.

    Also, if black guys started railing off African country names to describe their background the way some Polish-Irish-Swedish-French Canadians do, white peoples' eyes would roll like the 13th hole.
     
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    When the personal ads do.
     
  10. Bandwagoner

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    The term is comedically problematic. I'm sure it will soon fall off the euphemism treadmill. And by soon I mean before I am dead.
     
  11. Dairy Ashford

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    Black is more "problematic" but we've been eating that **** sandwich for half a millenn'. And your neuroses will kill you before it kills an axiomatic synonym.
     
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    Actually it will be my kidneys (or lack of) but I am hoping I live long enough where white people are not sure if they can still say African American.
     
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    This is really good info here and it goes to show that White people are just as likely to take "Guv'nant" handouts too.

    1# Yes it does matter because the poster I was replying to seems to imply that only black people accept programs like food stamps.
     
  14. Nook

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    However white people actually are not as likely to get food stamps.

    12% of the USA is African American yet they receive 33% of food stamps or nearly 3X above their population.

    Your "point" was a failure.
     
  15. StupidMoniker

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    Actually it shows that white people are one-fourth as likely to be on the dole as black people, half as likely as Hispanic people, and that you lack even a rudimentary knowledge of mathematics. :p
     
  16. amaru

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    Those taken came from city states, communities and empires. Some were royality, other political opposition to ruling parties, some POWs, some average citizens.

    I say all that to say this: There were many empires, city-states and nations on the african continent at the beginning of the Maafa. During the scramble for africa, many of the nation-states were forced to dissolve and become colonies for ruling european nations. Those colonies were the beginnings of today's African nations........generally speaking of course.
     
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    Why are you called "white" when you are not white, though? Isn't that less than simplifying. It confuses me very much. Confusing is not simple. I would rather you look on a very thorough color wheel and find the shade of brown to which your skin most closely matches and then say that you are "__". That would be way less confusing and much more interesting.
     
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    *royalty
     
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    Again, the only point I was making was that White people get food stamps as well. That is THE ONLY point I was making.

    Any other point you took from that is completely in your mind and a failure of reading comprehension.
     
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    It amazed me in 09' after the company crumbled I worked for from the financial mess. All the applications I sent out I never got a response even as a veteran with tax credits for employers to hire.

    Once I checked the American Indian, Eskimo box I was contacted by the same companies for interviews and quickly hired.
     

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