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Why Morey is still a genius - or how Houston's free agency unravelled

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by trugoy, Aug 14, 2014.

  1. Jakey

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    Need to ignore this dude as many posters have already stated. A narrow minded poster who bashes Morey nonstop every chance he gets. He'll ignore good points that contradict his point of view and reply with the same argument all the time. Even if you agree that Morey deserves criticism, you say one positive thing about Morey, he's there to call you a Morey minion or an idiot. Just baffles the mind why he is confused his privileges were revoked.

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  2. GoRox2013

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    Spoken like a true minion. If Morey does eventually get fired, we know you, DudeWah, chenjy9 (and a few other posters here) will be the first out the door with him. Real "Rocket fans" won't accept mediocrity, PERIOD. I'm not sure you guys fully comprehend this concept
     
  3. Liberon

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    Morey's mindset is totally skewed by the 1st '08 Boston Celtics Championship team. He doesn't hold a single empathy towards team chemistry over time rather that a forming a championship team and winning the first season together is possible thus his approach towards trading away players left and right without a thought.
     
  4. FTW Rockets FTW

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    Morey has failed miserably this summer as things stand right now. I don't care much about the roster as is as he tried to do what is best for the team and the Bosh thing was out of his control. However, he had the control to DUMP the pathetic joke that is McHale who is an embarassment to the Rockets and chose not to. That to me is the biggest disappointment of the summer so far.
     
  5. count_dough-ku

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    The Garnett/Allen/Pierce Celtics and the LeBron/Wade/Bosh Heat. That's the template Morey and Les are using and it's killing this franchise. The former ain't never gonna happen. We don't have the assets to get a 3rd superstar. T-Jones, Bev, and some low future first rounders won't cut it. Had Morey exercised that 4th year option on Parsons, then maybe it could've happened, but that ship has unfortunately sailed.

    And the latter ain't happening either. H-Town isn't a glamorous attraction like Miami. Plus when LeBron and Bosh went to the Heat, remember that they were only 4 years removed from an NBA title. We're 19 years from our last one.

    You wanna build a contender? Quit focusing on superstar players and start looking at solid role players. For God's sake, you've been blessed already with Howard and Harden. You've got your stars! Build around them already before they get fed up and leave!


    Agreed. People focus on the Bosh disaster as when the offseason went into the toilet, but for me it was the day after the Portland series loss when Morey announced he was keeping McHale for that 4th year option for no logical reason whatsoever. And if it was to lure Kevin Love here, well that was a waste of time and money now that he's a Cav.

    And to add insult to injury, here we are just over 2 months from opening night and we still have no one to replace Kelvin Sampson on the bench.
     
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  6. TheJet

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    I'm right with ya here. I thought for sure McHale would be scrutinized after that first round exit. And the absence of Kelvin clearly had an impact, yet to our knowledge hasn't been addressed.
     
  7. ZNB

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    This board wasn't this negative when we weren't making the playoffs. Some people wont appreciate what they have until they lose it.
     
  8. MadMax

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    Sure it was.

    And making the playoffs in the NBA is hardly some grand achievement. More teams get in than are left out. Franchises and players are judged by what they do once they get in the playoffs...not by merely getting there.
     
  9. count_dough-ku

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    It was negative. Just in a different way. People(including me) were mad that the Rockets were trying to maximize their mediocre talent which resulted in 41-44 win seasons and the worst pick in the lottery instead of just tanking for a couple years and rebuilding through the draft(you know, like they did in order to get Dream, the greatest player in franchise history).

    The irony is I think Morey and Les finally did intend to do that in 2012-13 when they were about to run out there with a starting lineup of Asik/White(or so they thought)/Parsons/Martin/Lin. That team would've been lucky to win 30 games in the Western Conference. Then James Harden fell into their laps on the eve of the season and everything changed literally overnight.

    As for not appreciating what we have til we lose it, what exactly are you referring to? We're a playoff team instead of a lotto team, I'll grant you that. But we're still first round fodder every year, so from where I'm standing, nothing's really changed with this franchise. Other than the faces.
     
  10. houtown

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    I like Morey but wouldn't call him a genius. The genius's are those who win on a consistent basis such as Phil Jackson as coach, and who have results that could get you past the first round at least. He hasn't even come close to being called a genius yet because its tied into the results the team achieves.
     
  11. ZNB

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    No it wasn't, and I never said making the playoffs is a grand achievement. I just don't see the point in being forever negative. It does nothing to help and just leaves everything feeling like ****.
     
  12. ZNB

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    So you guys are going to be forever negative and Debbie downers until we win a championship? Only one team wins a championship. I doubt all of the other fan bases are as miserable and negative as we currently are.
     
  13. chenjy9

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    I think the difference here is expectations. After we got Howard, everyone expected to get to the 2nd round at least. We didn't and that sucked. When we were marching out our crap squads during the Rick Adelman years, everyone expected to missed the playoffs and when the teams "overachieved", we were happy as fans. That said, very few people wanted that endless cycle of mediocrity, save for those loser fans that just wanted to feel good watching try hards play regardless of whether or not we won or lost.

    Personally, I am firmly in the camp of it a player is not good is not good enough to be a core player, don't waste needless money him. This includes players like Parsons and Lin. I was one of the biggest Parsons supporters, up until he was traded. Hell, I was high on the kid before anyone else was. Parsons was never going to be a star though or the elite player we are looking for the round out Howard and Harden, regardless of what his ego told him. Lin... well, let's not talk about Lin. I am totally fine with losing Parsons after picking up Ariza. I don't even care about the crap first rounder we coughed up to dump Lin. It is all about the ultimate good of the team.

    Call me a homer if you want, but I strongly believe we will be a better team this upcoming season than last. I believe Harden will go into next season with a fire in his belly. He has been roasted to hell and back (deservedly so) over his poor D and questionable leadership. He is already showing this for Team USA. Howard is only going to get better. We forget that he was still shaking off the rust last year. Coming back from back surgery is no joke guys. I believe that collectively, Dorsey and Adrien are better for the team than a singular pouting Asik. I also believe that Nick Johnson will be a stud next to Harden should PBev go down again. Then we also have Canaan and Daniels, both who can and WILL light it up from downtown next year with much greater confidence. TL/DR; I believe because I am a FAN of the Rockets.
     
  14. count_dough-ku

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    I don't think this team will be better until at least they make a coaching change. Leaving McHale in charge without Sampson there to pick up the slack is just begging for trouble. They were awful in April after Sampson left. They also have a very thin bench and almost no margin for error in terms of injuries. If either Howard or Harden go down for any period of time, they're screwed.
     
  15. houtown

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    I wouldn't say that. Its about being realistic. I believe in that it was realistic to believe that Houston should've at least got past portland. But like i said, I like Morey and what he is doing with the team despite the coaching situation. Im just saying the jury is still out.
     
  16. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    There is still plenty of time to fire and hire a coach. I don't like McHale either personally.
     
  17. ZNB

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    I agree that it was a disappointment that we didn't get past Portland, but I think the two teams were more evenly matched than most would care to admit. A lot of people act as though we got crushed by Portland but all the games were very close. Yes our expectations should be to get out of the first round, but we didn't and I think we should at least try to find something positive to talk about, it has been nothing but player/GM/Coach bashing all offseason.
     
  18. DudeWah

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    No. You're just an unintelligent, feeble minded fool who doesn't realize that hardly anyone takes you seriously.

    I've been a fan since 94. Probably before you were even born. Or so I hope judging by the quality of your posts. I'm not going anywhere chump.

    On a related note, Morey won't get fired anytime soon. So have fun b****ing for the next foreseeable future you troll.
     
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  19. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Don't bother arguing with him. Just ignore him and move on.
     
  20. TheJet

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    Take this advice. I did a little browsing on that guys post history. You're not going to have any kind of success trying to have a rational discussion with him.
     

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