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[Military State] Ferguson, MO

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by percicles, Aug 13, 2014.

  1. DAROckets

    DAROckets Member

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    I think whats being debunked is the early eyewitness accounts of Brown having his arms over his head in surrender . Piaget Crenshaw makes no mention of this at all ,just says he turned around ..
     
  2. Rocket River

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    PUL-LEASE .. he probably setting up for his next BEER SUMMIT
    He is not going to do *anything* IMO . .. but sit there and 'look' concerned.

    Rocket River
     
  3. justtxyank

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    What is he supposed to do that would make you happy?
     
  4. Rocket River

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    yet they are only truly deployed in Poor Neighborhoods
    When Clive and his buddies hung out
    the police put on their kid gloves and kissed their asses

    Rocket River
     
  5. Rocket River

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    Give a *****

    Rocket River
     
  6. justtxyank

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    What is he supposed to that would prove to you that he does care, other than say it?

    I'm trying to figure out what action it is that you think he is NOT taking because he doesn't give a bleep.
     
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  7. Bandwagoner

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    You keep sounding like you have no idea WTF you are talking about. LOL
     
  8. Remii

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    Yep and notice how the media reported the two differently...
    Bundy and his people were loaded up ready to go to war... Plus Bundy had other "white" supporters around the country so the government officials had to be very careful and politically correct because the eyes of the nation were on them.

    If the people in Ferguson had guns and threatened government officials like Bundy and his people did _ It would have been a blood bath... Especially with them arresting reporters and having a no-fly zone... And Robin Williams death was getting most of the TV news coverage.
     
  9. Kevooooo

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    Probably because they already had trained snipers supplied by the BLM with their scopes on the protesters. Not to mention it wasn't a neighborhood, it was open ranch land and a highway. Meaning, you don't have much to burn and destroy, so why would you need an overbearing police presence?

    So I'm prepared to get flamed for this, but you know there really is no other place to ask.

    I am not black, I'm a mutt. Arab, Scottish, Irish, Canadian, Sicilian, Italian, who knows what else. One thing I'm not, is African.

    We all have unique perspectives, and I can't speak to the perspective of a black man/woman in today's society. Can someone of color please explain to me how today there is systemic racism in this country? I understand the past, and how that has effected the present. But today, which policies do you believe represent systemic racism?

    As a mutt, I see it as individual racism. Not particularly this case, I don't know what to believe in this particular case, because I believe the media and the protestors were too quick to condemn the officer without fully understanding the facts. It's one thing to be skeptical of the official's version, it's another to condemn them as liars and murderers.

    Could anyone shed some light on this from the perspective of a black person in America?
     
  10. Two Sandwiches

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    I'll never know what happened, but I'll share my thoughts:

    Whatever may or may not have happened, there is no need to shoot an unarmed assailant six or eight times or whatever it was. That is absolutely criminal. Whether its murder or not is to be decided by a jury and people that do that sort of thing, but there is no way anyone can convince me that that many shots are not excessive force.

    I say this as a young white male who has never been in trouble and has been helped by many cops. I've seen them use excessive force before and was glad because I thought the guy deserved it for being an asshat and threatening my (as well as many other) life.

    We all know that cops have high stress jobs. Tension runs high. I'd never want to be one. We also know there are many out there that are crazy and or bullies. When you put weapons and opportunity in that person's hands, bad things will happen. Nowadays, with cameras everywhere, they will get caught on tape more and more often. They will be in the news more and more often. I hope this case serves as a deterrent to those bullies or crazies that are looking for a job like this in order to impose their will on more vulnerable people.

    This guy's badge should be stripped ASAP, with jail time coming shortly after.

    The fact that people are rioting there, especially out of towners, just pisses me off.
     
  11. The Law

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    What do you know, Dorian Johnson is forgetting what "actually" happened.
     
  12. justtxyank

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    Replace "mutt" with "white."

    It's OK, you can just say white, no need to make it sound like you are some exotic ethnic chick from Brazil. :)
     
  13. bigtexxx

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    This is absolute garbage. There are legal reasons that are fully justified how a cop can shoot an unarmed assailant. Whether it's 1 shot or 6 doesn't matter at all.
     
  14. Kevooooo

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    Except that I'm not white. Unless you see the world as "white people" and "black people." The fact of the matter is, my family doesn't come from just Europe, i.e. I am not only white-European.

    Would be nice if we could stay on topic, please.
     
  15. Two Sandwiches

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    I don't know them if so. Like I said (or meant to say), in my opinion, there is no way six shots is not excessive. Whether a jury or the legal system finds that the case or not, I guess we will see. And if they don't, in my opinion, its time to at least reevaluate our legal system.

    You can't tell me it took six shots, including two to the head to fully incapacitate someone. It should have been one, two, maybe three, nonlethal shots at most. And that is the point in which the shooting should have stopped (if the one being shot was unarmed). Besides that, if there was no gunpowder residue on the body, then that statement I just made is amplified many times over. Unarmed, further than an arm's distance ...it does not take six shots. That's the definition of excessive.

    But hindsight is 20/20, and these things happen much faster than we think, so who am I to sit and judge. Just offering my opinion.
     
  16. asianballa23

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    wow now we gotta reveal our race and color if we're gonna post in this thread? lol
     
  17. Two Sandwiches

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    I debated on posting that in my post. Lol. Probably didn't need to.
     
  18. K-Low_4_Prez

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    you can't prove something with one part of someones statement and dismiss the rest of what they said... if you believe what she is saying is true than their is no reason he should have been shot.
     
  19. Anas acuta

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    It's easy to sit behind your keyboard, without knowing what happened, and think more than one shot is excessive. But you've probably never been in a deadly force situation. I'm not being rude or poking fun. This is why Harris Co juries go through simulations and see how someone's action is ALWAYS quicker than yor reaction.

    I'll leave you with what liberal judges have to say: "We must never allow the theoretical, sanitized world of our imagination to replace the dangerous and complex world that policeman face everyday. What constitutes "reasonable" action may seem quite different to someone facing a possible assailant then to someone analyzing the question at leisure." (5th Circuit Court of Appeals)
     
  20. Remii

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    Actually those protesters had trained people with weapons as well...

    And have you seen Ferguson...??? There's not much there to destroy...


    But yet you think all American Black people are 100% African... Lol..
     

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