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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Two Sandwiches, Jul 11, 2014.

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  1. shastarocket

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    It depends. Do we get Milsap's bird right if we trade for him? If yes, then heck yeah. Because I don't think we have the cap space next year for big free agent signings.
     
  3. steddinotayto

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    3 years with an average of $7 million a year and a player option on the last year isn't bad considering some of his counterparts are robbing their respective teams (i.e. eric gordon, tyreke evans, gordon hayward, etc.)

    The Suns can very well absorb Martin's contract but why do that when you can move one of your 3 point guards and also get a 1st Rounder in return? :grin:
     
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    To your question, I believe so.

    Parsons only counted around $3 to 4 million against the cap for Houston when he signed with Dallas. He counted at the full max for Dallas. If we signed Bledsoe to the max, then his full cap hit is immediate......not delayed to after we have to match Parsons.

    So this tells us one of two things:

    1) Either we don't like Bledsoe at the max
    2) We were afraid PHX would match

    My guess is #2.
     
  5. bmd

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    I just don't see how that is a trade Phoenix would go for. The Rockets would be giving away their crap for Bledsoe. It's not going to happen.

    Powell - sucks
    NOP 1st - is going to be a mid first-round pick at best.
    Capela - currently sucks. Has potential years down the road.
    Papanikolaou - Has never played a single NBA minute. Is a back-up.
    Jones - An okay player. Has a lot of flaws and isn't that good as a starter. Has potential, but is currently more suited as a bench player.


    None of that is all that enticing. If you were Phoenix, did you make your team better by trading Bledsoe for that?



    And as for Millsap...

    Gee - sucks
    Hopson - sucks
    NYK 2nd - worthless
    D-Mo - currently not that good. Has some potential.
    Beverley - Good on defense. Hardly any offensive game.

    Plus Atlanta already has Jeff Teague at PG and he averages like 17 ppg. Although he sucks at defense, why would they trade for another PG?




    I just don't see how these trades would happen. Other teams would have to be offering Phoenix and Atlanta even worse trade proposals than that.
     
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    I just asked my guy about the Rockets going for either Bledsoe or Dragic and he said that's one of the deals they are working on.
     
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    With that comparison, you'd have to consider that Ariza likely wouldn't agree to coming over here if he had to split wing minutes with Harden, Parsons, and Daniels. Even if he did, Ariza and Parsons don't bring too much different to the table, whereas Bledsoe brings something new to the team (athleticism, driving ability, tenacious D).
     
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    I like that plowman knew months in advanced, drew did in his own way too - interesting that there were no leaks in the past months, I hope it gets done. Dragic preferred.
     
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    And it's not even possible for phoenix. Even without Bledsoe, they have 13 guaranteed contracts. They'd have to waive half of those players to make the trade work.
     
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    Which just again annoys me about Parsons. He could have waited before signing on the dot with the Mavs. Give us a heads up, let us offer Bledsoe max and see if PHX would match, but stagger it so that we would have 24 hrs heads up before we'd have to match Parsons. Or even NICER would be signing after the Bosh matter came to a close...instead of putting us on the clock like that. I doubt DAL, as desperate as they were, would have withdrawn its offer simply because Parsons wanted to wait a few days.

    I mean, sure Parsons was taking a slight risk, but we just let him out a YEAR EARLY for his $900k contract. You'd think there would be some give on his part...
     
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    How do you know Cuban didn't give him an ultimatum to sign the offer sheet at that moment or he moves on to the next free agent?

    As much as I dislike Parsons' behavior we can't just say it was 100% on Parsons considering:

    1. Mark Cuban was involved
    2. $14 million a year was involved
    3. Mark Cuban was involved
     
  12. htown1984

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    Are you a legit insider or just messing with us??
     
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    There is that risk, but I doubt it. With Dan Fegan as Parsons' agent? Really doubt it. Thing is, Mavs' backup plan when no Parsons was not that amazing...Lance Stephenson on a better deal than Charlotte got him for. That doesn't fill their spot at the 3 at all...

    And that signing at midnight at a party with Cuban says it all, come on...

    Parsons himself even said it was because Mavs made him feel "loved" by showing he was their #1 priority, flying to FL to see him at midnight (which makes NO sense since he clearly wasn't as they met with Melo too...denial?)
     
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    Makes me wonder, if there is a 3rd team involved. Not sure, who would be interested.
     
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    I'm not an insider, I know someone who is close with the Rockets staff.
     
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    Nice.. so The Dragic and Bledsoe rumors have some legs :)
     
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    (a) Mavs had to have an answer, guys were signing fast
    (b) Cubes claimed all along he expected Rox to match, and I believe that; he drew the contract up to make it difficult for Rox moving forward. Now, the contract and player is his.
     
  19. steddinotayto

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    Again, like I said before, unless you were with Parsons during that whole courting process between him and Cuban we can't say it was 100% on Parsons for signing it so "prematurely".

    Like you said, if he felt more "love" by Cuban and said later he was "offended" by the way the Rockets treated him then he was as good as gone no matter what. In this assumption, Parsons didn't need to do the Rockets any kind of favors (e.g. giving them time to offer max money to Bledsoe) because he wanted to leave.

    So it's either we believe Parsons was going to leave any way (due to the way his contract was structured, the amount of money thrown at him, the expedited timeline he gave the Rockets once he signed that contract, etc.) or Parsons was testing the Rockets' love for him like this was some romantic comedy where Morey had to jump over hurdles to keep his beloved Chandler.

    Put it this way: We can agree that Morey would have matched Chandler's offer sheet if Bosh had decided to come to Houston (despite the trade kicker, the player option, etc. that was attached to Parsons' contract), correct? We can also agree that Morey himself called Parsons' contract "untradeable". So what does that tell us? That tells us that Morey would have only wanted to bring Parsons back (under ANY circumstances) IF he got his 3rd Superstar. If he didn't get his 3rd superstar Morey wasn't going to bring back Parsons at all (which is what happened). If Parsons knew this then why would he do Morey and the Rockets a solid by giving them "more time" to court other free agents when Mark Cuban gave him a $14 million a year contract offer? One would have to be stupid not to sign an offer sheet for that much money.
     
  20. BeardFan19

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    :mad:don't want milsap, whats the point in trading for him smh, use your heads jesus
     
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