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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Two Sandwiches, Jul 11, 2014.

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  1. Rox>Mavs

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    Right, I think Morey matches Parson if the PO and Kicker weren't included (which is why Cubes put those in the offer sheet). Morey said in his interview that made the contract un-tradable, which means he might give Bledsoe the max IF he can be had on a team friendly contract to be placed in trade later for a guy like.......KD
     
  2. Amel

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    ...I saw Martin here in Clearwater FL at a Hooters watching the San Antonio - Miami game with friends. I passed by and was like, "Yo Kevin, you gonna come back to Houston?!" and he was like - "Nah man, I'm a Minny kid now :)"
     
  3. finsraider

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    I'd love to get Bledsoe, but it's a high risk/reward move, and it leaves you with more holes than Dragic would. You still need a secondary creator to spell Harden (Bledsoe is not a creator at this point in his career...he's a finisher).
     
  4. Rockets2K

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    I think it would have to be a three team simultaneous trade in order to do that since Martin's contract would not be able to be aggregated into a combined salaries of the other players for two months.

     
  5. steddinotayto

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    Thanks! If that's the case then it's impossible to do unless:

    1. Minnesota trades Kevin Martin to Phoenix
    2. Houston trades DMo, Gee, Fillers, Pelicans Pick to Phoenix
    3. Phoenix signs and trades Bledsoe to Houston

    ??

    In that scenario would Minnesota then generate their own TPE for Martin?
     
  6. ROXTXIA

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    If you acquire Martin for the TPE, that's a separate transaction; you can't immediately trade him elsewhere. You'd have to sit on him until December 15 to make the trade you mention; and other players in your scenario wouldn't figure for the Rockets' 2014-15 plans (Hopson and Powell would likely have to be waived if not traded this summer).
     
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  7. steddinotayto

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    Thanks for the info!

    I don't know how else we can get Bledsoe or Dragic from Phoenix with the current players and picks we have. Phoenix has 3-4 power forwards but they have a big hole at shooting guard.
     
  8. Plowman

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    I've tried emailing you twice..once through the board and once to the given email. Both bounced. Help me out, ROX.
     
  9. larsv8

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    Bump!
     
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  10. finsraider

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    Also, I don't think the Parsons / Bledsoe comparisons are valid. The real comparison is Bledsoe + Ariza vs Parsons.
     
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    Bingo
     
  12. ROXTXIA

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    Let me look at it, I'll email you again when I think it won't give problems.

    EDIT: I sent you a message. Supposedly it's fixed. If it bounces back again, never mind for now, and thanks.
     
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    Its not though because we still could have matched Parsons after signing Ariza.

    Its comparing Parsons/Ariza to Bledsoe/Ariza, so its basically just comparing Bledsoe/Parsons.
     
  14. finsraider

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    Just for fun, this is what a trade for Bledsoe and Millsap could look like:

    Papanikolaou + TJones + Capela + NOP 1st + Powell + Covington for Bledsoe

    Then, at the trade deadline, assuming Atlanta is out of the playoff race and DMo's value has gone up:

    DMo + Beverley + Gee+ Hopson + NYK 2nd for Millsap
     
  15. steddinotayto

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    Bledsoe/Ariza still better than Parsons/Ariza because you're addressing a need with the former (PG) and having redundancy with the latter.
     
  16. BigMaloe

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    If we could net Bledsoe and busty Morris while losing the entire pf rotation, all the NGed contracts and nop pick and keeping Beverley, I'd be happy. We would need a lot of bench help, but who knows maybe dorsey powell and the such are equal to last year's horrid bench. I mean can't be much worse than caspi garcia.

    We would still have the TPE to acquire help off the bench.

    Bledsoe/Beverley/Johnson
    Harden/Bledsoe/Trey
    Ariza/Trey/Garcia
    Morris/Ariza/Powell
    Dwight/Adrien

    Really only lack a backup switch big and a back up switch forward.
     
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    I don't agree. If the Rockets sign Parsons, then they don't offer Ariza. Also, Ariza probably doesn't commit to Houston unless they give him the starting job.

    So it's back to Bledsoe + Ariza vs. Parsons.

    Now you could argue that they could have given Bledsoe a max contract (hoping PHX doesn't match), but then you have one crazy waiting game where you don't find out if you got Bledsoe until after you've matched Parsons. If PHX matches Bledsoe, then you've got Parsons and nothing else.
     
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    if Martin (and his contract) was acceptable to The PHX Sarvers they would sign and retain both Dragic and Bledsoe.

    Martin has the NBA's most untradeable contract of the day IMO.
     
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    So, an increased value DMo for an UFA (to be) Milsap?
     
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    Would we even have been allowed to match Parsons first while our max offer to Bledsoe was out? I know we can go over the cap to sign Parsons, but if we've matched Parsons, wouldn't our cap already have been eaten up? We can't go over our cap to then offer Bledsoe a max...

    Unless you're saying, offer Bledsoe, match Parsons, hope for Bledsoe to not be matched, and that this is allowed as Bledsoe's max is first, then Parsons' match (over the cap)?
     
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