I am a liberal and I have absolutely no problem with a cop shooting someone approaching them with a knife. They must not have stiff requirements to be a cop in your precinct huh? It is sad to see someone as ignorant and biased as you being paid to protect and serve the community.
yup. why the hell would u rush the cop if he has a gun pointed at you. if a gun is pointed at you're freezing or running away...not towards
I wasn't stupid enough to be a cop... But you clearly would be a good cop in Ferguson. You fit right in with their line of thinking. They only have a limited supply and they save them for when they have trouble in non-black neighborhoods... Any police department that operates without dashboard cams on their car are subject to be police officers that abuse their power.
The term liberal is not by itself a political term. Whether you're in a CHL class, military, or the police force, you're taught to meet deadly force with deadly force. If not you don't place value on your own life and you may get someone else killed in the process. That's self defense 101. Then if someone died when a taser was used you'd wanna know why they had to tase him. What happens when one taser probe misses the suspect and he continues coming and stabs you in his eye?
Then what do you mean by 'Liberalism is a goddamned disease'? I am well aware of what is taught. But WE are also taught that lethal force is a last resort. By the looks of things.....I don't think the Ferg PD follows that same code of conduct. And cool Hypothetical.....can I do one? What happens if the cops, which are supposed to be well trained.....didn't start pointing their guns at unarmed citizens earlier in the week? Would the escalation been as bad as it became? I am not sure what they teach you officers of the law......but the Military teaches that you don't point at what you don't intend to kill. Wow....that was fun!
Well this is the only place I've been criticized, so I must be doing ok in real life. Have a solid track history and have numerous awards that hang on the wall. Dept only hires about 1 out of every 100 applicants, so it's not as easy (here anyways) as you may think. Say what you want, but I'm fine with $90k a year for what I'm doing (sergeants and up make a nice wage). And I enjoy the hell out of it. Nearly every one of my coworkers have a bachelors or prior military experience. Not all depts are created equal. At some places you need only a pulse for that $13/hour. Look at the depts that pay $30/hour+ and I'll show you a dept that isn't in the news all the time for controversial events. I wouldnt work without a dash cam. I have been involved in two internal affairs investigations and they camera has cleared me on both of them. In 2014, you couldn't pay me enough to deal with the public without everything being video and audio recorded.
I think that this shows that people who rob convenience stores around St. Louis are generally showing themselves to be morons. Most common thieves have the sense to just get arrested when they are caught. Missouri folk make the cops kill them.
That shooting is completely justified and anybody who argues otherwise doesn't understand that somebody is coming at you with a knife raised up to stab you. 3-4 feet away. If you have a taser and miss, you're dead. There's no guarantee that he doesn't fall on you with the knife and stab you, either. There are multiple demands to drop the knife, yet the man kept coming towards the police. Multiple witnesses can corroborate that. This is an issue of people mistrusting the police and faulting them for anything they do. It's unfortunate that this shooting happened on the heels of this chaos, but those cops had no other choice.
Officers don't get paid to fight fair. The penal code (chapter 9) backs that up too (at least in Texas). If someone twice as big as me (I'm a solid 5'11" 185lbs) has already broken my face and shown a disregard for life (like what may or may not have happened in Ferguson) and is coming at me full speed ahead, I would be more than justified in taking out the threat. The beautiful thing about the law is that you don't have to be mere seconds from death before you end the threat. But at what point do you draw that line? What if the officer is a 4'10" female and we have a 6'5" thug whooping up on her? Is the deadly force threshold going to be a little different? What if the cop is Ron Coleman? A jury would probably see that differently than a 5" female cop dealing with a violent person. An officer can only act based off of what they know at the time, and that's how the courts determine what was reasonable. I'll leave you with this; "We must never allow the theoretical, sanitized world of our imagination to replace the dangerous and complex world that policeman face everyday. What constitutes "reasonable" action may seem quite different to someone facing a possible assailant then to someone analyzing the question at leisure." (5th Circuit Court of Appeals)
Few years ago police in Germany fired 85 shots total in a whole year, 49 warning shots, 36 shots on suspects, 15 persons were injured, 6 were killed. US cops sometimes top that number of shots in a month. Granted Germany has about 80 million people, while USA has over 300, their homicide rate is 4 times less than US, but still it shouldn't be close to 12 times as much, unless our citizens are way crazier than German's.
how do you know what it should and shouldn't be? Do you have the numbers on how many people died due to police hesitating to use their firearms?
In Germany you have a MUCH more homogeneous population, that makes a big difference when comparing that to the US. 80% of the country are Germans with no migrant background.....compare that to the US.
Still doesn't change the fact that your line of thinking is right on par with theirs. And as I previously stated the police force will hire any damn body... The most dangerous thing to do is to give a scary mentally weak person a badge and a gun.
Exactly. Throw that many different peoples together and there will be clashes of culture and personality every now and again, it's only natural. Honestly America does pretty well all things considered.
That's not really true though. North of 82% of Canadians are of Western European descent with almost all of those being from the UK or of French descent so while that's not exactly "oneness", it's not exactly diverse either.
