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[Military State] Ferguson, MO

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by percicles, Aug 13, 2014.

  1. tallanvor

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Police sources tell me more than a dozen witnesses have corroborated cop's version of events in shooting <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ferguson?src=hash">#Ferguson</a></p>&mdash; Christine Byers (@ChristineDByers) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChristineDByers/statuses/501556693382094848">August 19, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  2. TEXNIFICENT

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    Gotta agree. Ridiculous criminal behavior in the store & the over the top reaction to the situation. Why destroy your own community & the small business owner's property. They're just trying to make living whether the cop is guilty or not. The whole thing is sad.:(
     
  3. txppratt

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    i'm not a gun owner, but i'm about to be one. jesus these cops are effing scary!
     
  4. rudan

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    I don't think it's the cops that are scary..........
     
  5. Bandwagoner

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    For a good anti cop gun I would get a SCAR 17S with an ACOG. The stock collapses and folds, you have a folding front and rear BUIS, and it uses widely available M14 mags.

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    It packs way more punch then the puny 11.5" 5.56mm pea shooters the douchebags with the upside down knee pads and hockey helmets were carrying.
     
  6. Commodore

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>On CNN, <a href="https://twitter.com/jaketapper">@jaketapper</a> says: there's 100 members if the media and like 20 protestors...</p>&mdash; Brad Dayspring (@BDayspring) <a href="https://twitter.com/BDayspring/statuses/501587823057981440">August 19, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  7. rudan

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    Meanwhile somewhere in Chicago someone is getting murdered and there is 0 reporters who give a damn.
     
  8. apollo33

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    more like meanwhile everywhere in the world some is murdered, where dem media at
     
  9. treeman

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    To be perfectly honest, you've been on my ignore list for a while. Not sure how you even got on there in the first place, as it's usually reserved for complete jacka$$es. But this post finally prompted me to remove you from it. Kudos for knowing what a SCAR and ACOG are, plus an SBR, and recognizing cops who don't know how to run their gear when seeing it. Good stuff.

    I must say, I like the 5.56 stuff, though. Shot placement is paramount, and 5.56 works just fine if you put it where it needs to go. My current "riot control" devices, as the Ferguson PD might call them:

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    The BCM EAG carbine at the bottom is my favorite. Of course, these are not "anti-cop" guns, they are anti-burglar/looter guns, which is, I think, a more appropriate application.
     
  10. robbie380

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    He was trying to hug the clerk.
     
  11. giddyup

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    Other people said he roughed the clerk up. I saw him reach into the clerk's space, which is where I think the money exchange happened. Then, the clerk comes out from behind the counter in a very nonchalant way, didn't confront Brown at all, and didn't look like his feathers were even ruffled.

    Hard to see where that was any kind of traumatic experience for the clerk, which a robbery definitely would be.
     
  13. Anas acuta

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    A robbery can be based on what you say. You can tell the clerk "I have a gun and I'll kill you if you don't...." That's a robbery.
     
  14. Rip Van Rocket

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    There is something wrong with you. So now you're recommending the best weapon to kill a cop?
     
  15. edwardc

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    Hey now lets not go there all of those cops aren't bad people .
     
  16. jo mama

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    didnt a video come out last week which showed the clerk trying to stop brown from leaving the store and brown pushing him?
     
  17. rocketsjudoka

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    I think we need to separate the issues. Whether the shooting of Brown was justified is one but the actions of the Ferguson PD. A situation like this where police over reacted to the protests early on in my opinion is a much bigger problem and one that is going to be harder to solve. The courts will eventually decide whether officer Wilson was justified or not but for the police actions there needs to be some big changes in policy, training and attitude otherwise this will happen again somewhere else where people take to the streets over some grievance by the police.

    One bright spot in all of this is recent reports that protestors are trying to restrain the troublemakers and even working with PD to turn those people in.
     
  18. JuanValdez

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    Yes. There's a bunch of things getting conflated together. There's the general Ferguson PD relationship with the community, which apparently was not very healthy. There's whatever happened with Brown, which may or may not have been justified. There's the peaceful protests and the looters. There's the initial police reaction and the Highway Patrol. I think a lot of people are hanging their hats on this use of force on Brown, and if it comes out that Brown was a credible threat, you're going to have a lot of onlookers saying the whole reaction was without merit. It seems like the reaction, though, was really to the first issue -- the poor relationship between the PD and the community, and reinforced by the first day looting and the initial police reaction to the looting -- and that the perception of the shooting was just a catalyst and not actually important in itself at all. Too much weight of the protest has been put on the shooting, and the country is going to turn its back on Ferguson (besides the black community) if the evidence of the case doesn't suggest it was excessive, because we don't want to think about all the other stuff.
     
  19. fchowd0311

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    If it comes down to having a firefight with law enforcement you're probably already dead. I don't care what type of small arms you're packing.
     
  20. DFWRocket

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    Witness has different version when he doesn't know his voice is being recorded..

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    Personally, I think all the protests are way too early. At least wait until the investigation is over and listen to all the evidence before you jump to a conclusion either way. Then protest if you disagree with the outcome. Right now all that is happening is the protests and outcry are convoluting all the facts.
     

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