I'm not giving an opinion on the Michael Brown case because we don't seem to know many facts. It is possible this was a bad shooting and it is possible it was a justified shooting. I think both theories are equally in play still based on what has been released. To the greater issue at large though, police killings of minorities are a lot lower than you would think based on the narrative that has become so popular. The idea that every black teenager has a target on his head when a cop is around is preposterous. That doesn't absolve cops of responsibility when they fire their weapon inappropriately. I think a big problem with cops is a lack of crisis training. Too many officers don't know how to react when a situation gets ugly. I won't pretend that I would react well either, but I'm not carrying a gun and a badge. This is a smaller example, but I know of a cop of who killed someone's dog because they came out of a gate barking while the cops were in the middle of an arrest. I'm not placing the value of a dog's life on the level of a human, but I think it illustrates how in a stressful situation, poor training can lead to an unnecessary outcome.
If the harassment was the other way around, the media would go ape$hit........ <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/wxthl0d7Dek" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> All these protesters are bullys and the public schools are teaching that bullys shouldnt be allowed to exist
The amount of racism- subtle or otherwise- in this thread is truly amazing... and sad. Comes from not knowing, unfortunately. Out.
I can see where it might be necessary to shoot someone multiple times to stop them, if you are in fear for your life. If a 6' 4", 290 pound dude is coming at me, and I think he is going to try to harm me, I would probably shoot. Just because the police officer has been trained to defend himself using non-lethal methods, it doesn't mean it's always possible to do so. I don't know what happened when the confrontation occurred. Too many people are telling too many different stories. People are believing whatever story they want to believe. People are trying to come to conclusions without knowing all the facts. Through the years I've met some cops with bad attitudes, and I've met some that were very professional. I just try to avoid cops as much as possible. I obey the law, and if I get stopped, I do whatever the cop tells me, and I'm as polite as possible. There is no way I could ever be a police officer, it's one of the most difficult jobs around. While I do want cops to use the least amount of force necessary to apprehend someone, I also think they should be allowed to use deadly force when needed. I'm not going to assume anything about this incident until all the facts have been gathered. I wasn't there to witness anything, and I can't really believe anything that's being reported by the media.
Some of the most racist and cowardly, self righteous people are family men. Are you going to try and deny this?
Of course it is different. Mistrust was sown into the black community decades ago when police forces consisted almost exclusively of white males and during an era of segregation and later integration, those forces acted terribly against the black community. Nobody but a few ardent racists deny that. Since then, mistrust in the black community and has continued and has led to an attitude towards cops that is downright hostile. Cops are no longer the same racists they used to be for the most part, but a lot of the hostility towards black men still exists. Some of it may be latent racism, some of it is certainly a reaction to the hostility they expect to receive and HAVE received from the black community, some of it is a reaction to drugs and poverty in the black community, etc. The point though is that you have to fix both sides of the equation to get the right answer. If the only time it's ever a story is when a black kid gets killed by a cop, then progress can't be made. Work to correct that for sure, but also work to correct the attitude many black men have towards cops where they cuss them out, spit at them, teach their children that cops are just murderers (when the numbers don't back it up). On this board we have people celebrating the fact that Tupac told the cop FU when he tried to help him as he was dying. We have professional athletes participating in anti-snitch videos. (Note, Melo denied that it was a serious video, but the guy who made it with him later ended in jail for killing a "snitch.") You have multiple cases of black youth torturing and killing other black youth for talking to cops, even a case of a woman torturing a guy in a wheelchair. I'm not trying to sweep the history of the police under the rug and say black people have no reason to be mistrustful of police. It goes both ways though. Just like black people think cops see them as the enemy, cops think black people see them as the enemy. Your natural reaction when you think the other person thinks of you as the enemy is to put your guard up and be defensive.
Absolutely true. It's also true that most cowardly people are not out looking to kill someone in broad daylight for giggles. The vast majority of racist people will never have a violent confrontation with the people of the race they are racist against.
You wouldn't know . . .. because until a few years ago reports of police brutality were written by the cop it was against and then put into a general file. . not their personel file Rocket River
And those cops deserve to be punished to the full extent of the law... After doing a bit of google research, Mr. Davis was ruled against by Hon. Nanette Baker(a black judge). Spoiler https://pdf.yt/d/FLUXbI0aBpxYCxuH The case is in appeals...There is always more to the story Rocket...you should know this.
How old is his mom. I heard 34... If that's true she was just a child herself when she had him. Sometimes it could be more about a child having guidance than discipline growing up. You probably would have done the smart thing and waited for backup before trying to apprehend the suspect by yourself considered how big he was. Whenever you see people getting beat down by police _ you see more than one cop. That particular cop was trying to be a hero and a young kid paid for it with his life.
We don't really know much about him or his mother so I'm not going to pass judgment on whether or not she did a good job raising him.
I still think there's a difference between general police brutality and straight up shooting someone multiple times under broad daylight. I don't think even a extremely racist cop would shoot black kids for the hell of it.
Well we do know that she failed as a parent if her kid is robbing convenience stores and fighting with cops. No matter what else happened in that kid's life, you failed as a parent if your kid is doing those things.
I said nothing of the sort. You guys were talking about discipline of a child and I was pointing out that his mom was around 16 when she had him and just a child herself. He should have never engaged until backup arrived. I've never seen a cop come in the "hood" trying to make an arrest by himself... That's dangerous. They always roll deep.
