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[Military State] Ferguson, MO

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by percicles, Aug 13, 2014.

  1. J.R.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Ferguson chief just said, &quot;This robbery does not relate to the initial contact w/ Michael Brown.&quot;</p>&mdash; Goldie Taylor (@goldietaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldietaylor/statuses/500358112491343872">August 15, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Police chief just said: Wilson stopped Brown b/c he was walking down the middle of the street, not b/c of robbery.</p>&mdash; Goldie Taylor (@goldietaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldietaylor/statuses/500359221255213057">August 15, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Officer Wilson did not know abt the robbery, did not stop Brown as a suspect.</p>&mdash; Goldie Taylor (@goldietaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldietaylor/statuses/500367890181529602">August 15, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Jackson says the officer who shot Brown was not same officer who responded to robbery.</p>&mdash; Yamiche Alcindor (@Yamiche) <a href="https://twitter.com/Yamiche/statuses/500358195802800128">August 15, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Jackson says Dorian Johnson will not be charged with a crime because he didn't participate in robbery</p>&mdash; Yamiche Alcindor (@Yamiche) <a href="https://twitter.com/Yamiche/statuses/500358729167298561">August 15, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Jackson says Wilson didn't know <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelBrown?src=hash">#MichaelBrown</a> was a suspect in robbery when he stopped him.</p>&mdash; Yamiche Alcindor (@Yamiche) <a href="https://twitter.com/Yamiche/statuses/500359475241705472">August 15, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Jackson said officer stopped <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelBrown?src=hash">#MichaelBrown</a> because he was &quot;waking down the middle of the street blocking traffic.&quot; Didn't know about robbery</p>&mdash; Yamiche Alcindor (@Yamiche) <a href="https://twitter.com/Yamiche/statuses/500360941662666753">August 15, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Jackson's response to those questioning whether robbery video is of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelBrown?src=hash">#MichaelBrown</a> : &quot;I just think take a look at it.&quot;</p>&mdash; Yamiche Alcindor (@Yamiche) <a href="https://twitter.com/Yamiche/statuses/500361676848627712">August 15, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Jackson said police found evidence that Brown had been involved in the cigar robbery on the teen's body after he was killed.</p>&mdash; Yamiche Alcindor (@Yamiche) <a href="https://twitter.com/Yamiche/statuses/500368934265442304">August 15, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Family of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelBrown?src=hash">#MichaelBrown</a> to host press conference with attorneys at 3:30pm CDT/ 4:30pm EST <a href="http://t.co/Yxcw2oPDvL">pic.twitter.com/Yxcw2oPDvL</a></p>&mdash; Benjamin Crump, Esq. (@attorneycrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/attorneycrump/statuses/500372482793414657">August 15, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  2. rudan

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    karma.......

    That police officer probably inadvertently saved 3-5 lives by killing that criminal. Obama should award him with the medal of freedom and the NAACP should make him man of the year.
     
  3. Duncan McDonuts

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    Officer Wilson didn't stop Brown as a suspect in the robbery, but Brown could have thought he was being stopped in relation to it. It would have explained any type of aggressive behavior he exhibited towards Officer Wilson.

    That is, if Brown truly was aggressive towards Officer Wilson. I'd like to hear the dash camera footage. The audio might be the best objective evidence to shed light on the shooting.

    I wish cameras would be standard equipment for all law enforcement. It worked well on a small scale. Widespread implementation would make law enforcement more transparent, and in turn, the people would trust them more.
     
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    Very good point...perhaps in the same way Trayvon could have been nervous after buying Skittles to make lean?

    Too early to tell, but could there be some parallels here?
     
  5. giddyup

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    What did Brown hand to Dorian Johnson before they walked out? It looked like the same pack that Michael Brown had... Did Johnson pay for it?

    EDIT: Looks like DJ put the package that Johnson grabbed for him back on the counter.
     
  6. Rocket River

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    " . . . AND EVERY RAPE VICTIM SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN DRESSED LIKE THAT" - Sincerely BigTexx


    Rocket River
    . . .as long as they can 'criminalize' the victim . . .. then they are no longer a victim . . . ..
     
  7. bigtexxx

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    need more details, RR.

    What we know is that tragically there's a man dead and hostile masses in Ferguson
     
  8. CometsWin

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    The usual race baiters just showed up.
     
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    And you're here, don't leave that one out.
     
  10. CometsWin

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    Of course, because I have 5 posts in this thread and you have 19. I guess you're adding to your expert resume... football, foreign affairs, military tactics, and now race relations and police protocol. You truly are grrrrrreat!!! Lead on bobby! Teach us all how it is!

    Maybe if we fire bombed Ferguson, killed 10,000 people we could solve this problem. Whatcha think bobby?
     
  11. J.R.

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    Family Attorneys:

    Daryl Parks: People will create sideshows to protect their own.

    Anthony Gray: Let me be real clear: this family never said Mike Brown Jr. is a perfect kid. ... I don't want anyone to leave here with the misconception that these parents have portrayed that about their child. You may see other images or photos or depictions that don't paint him in the most complimentary light. That is just a major distraction about a 18-year old child. He probably did 15-year old stuff. No one out here at that age is proud of everything they've done from the day they were born until 18.

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    The family feels that was strategic. A character assassination attempt. They think the timing is suspect and where the highway patrol is called in and things are settled down, he's inciting the community all over again. If you get a violent reaction, it won't be because anyone on this side. ... In spite of that, I have been asked to make a plea to do not take the bait from anyone who is trying to character assassinate Mike. Don't take that and react negatively and begin to riot or loot. The family is not for that.

    Is that Michael Brown in the video? Did he rob that store? Did he rough up that clerk?

    Daryl Parks: It appears to look like him. I wouldn't say he robbed it. It appears to look like him. You look at the video, you get a better picture. You have to think about, he decided to release those pictures. Those pictures look worse than the actual video. Why would he strategically put this community and the world through a whole day of seeing those pictures when he had a video with far better portrayal? We believe he strategically did that to assassinate the character of Mike Brown.

    What was he doing that day?

    He was staying with friends in the area is what I've been told.

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    Police share the name before they told everyone?

    No.

    Tell them anything?

    No.

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    Why should the rest of the country care?

    Anthony Gray: They should care because...when you have witness accounts saying a sworn officer shot an unarmed person with their arms up as a universal sign of surrender, that is so deeply disturbing that it should rivet around the globe. You have some of the most hardened criminals that are in jail right now, that when they gave this sign, they were taken into custody peacefully. I think about Saddam Hussein. I think about Charles Manson, when those guys did this, they done way more stuff than alleged stealing cigarillos from a Seven-Eleven. There are far more worse crimes than that but when they did this, they were taken into custody peacefully. When a person does this, on his knees and is shot and killed immediately after doing that, that is not a community concern. That is not a St. Louis thing. That is a nationwide problem and interest. The world is just curious: why did you do that? For all the things the Chief to talk about and to release, could he have released info for the justification of why the officer would shoot someone in broad daylight? Could he have not divulged to the public? He has facts and info he could release that we're interested in but yet he chose to talk about something to darken up this man's past.

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    Strategy, what game is being played?

    Parks: The character assassination. Whatever happened in the store had nothing to do with the officer's mindset and his decision to shoot Michael and kill him. Those two are not together. Any portrayal is something that is meant to be a sideshow. It's a diversion from the conduct of the officer at that time.
     
  12. apollo33

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    I think this more than likely, Brown was probably paranoid and might have had some kind of physical altercation with the police.
     
  13. krnxsnoopy

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    As Duncan Mcdonuts said earlier, it probably was in the mindset of Michael Brown. He knew what he did.
     
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    Yeah I get that the parents are admitting he's not a perfect kid. A lot of kids do dumb things. But they shouldn't downplay going into an establishment, roughing up the employees and taking their merchandise - as just 'kids being kids'.

    Kids doing dumb things usually flies when they do things that harm themselves but not others; underage drinking, recreational drugs, maybe even shoplifting. But roughing up a store clerk is at a whole another level. That is aggressive behavior. I can't say MOST kids do what this kid did, at ANY point in their lives.

    Seriously? The day he did something so egregious, he also gets shot?

    What a coincidence..
     
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    He was a big boy. Maybe he thought he could rough up the officer too.
     
  16. Rocket River

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    Example of the: HE WAS A BIG BLACK MAN defense

    Rocket River
     
  17. bigtexxx

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    Your shtick is tired and stale. You are not willing to have a dialogue, instead you prefer to bully people by tossing the race card to and fro.

    Cold product
     
  18. krnxsnoopy

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    I'm pretty sure I said he was a big boy. Not a big black boy/man. So let me ask you, would you feel differently about my assertion if it was a big white boy instead?

    If a big white boy roughed up the store clerk, would you say its reasonable to propose that, in an eventual confrontation with a cop he may have tried something similar?

    I'm pretty sure if it was a big white boy, you wouldn't have any problem with what I said.
     
  19. Felixthecat

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    Todays news must have been like Christmas for Donald Sterling, I mean bigtexxx.
     
  20. ArtV

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    Even if the police was roughed up, you can't shoot him. The only way I can see this is if Mike went for the cop's gun and they were fighting over it. That is the ONLY way I can see justification. But those shots would all be fired at very close range and easy to tell from powder burns. If he shot an unarmed man from a distance, which is what has been reported, then the cop should be fired and the case turned over to the grand jury.
     

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