1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Why is high crime rate in the black community ignored

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by lol123, Aug 12, 2014.

Tags:
  1. mc mark

    mc mark Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 1999
    Messages:
    26,195
    Likes Received:
    471
    You haven't changed in 12 years.
     
  2. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    26,965
    Likes Received:
    2,347
    When the root cause was eradicated during the time of Abraham Lincoln, yeah I wouldn't say that's especially useful in your search for the solution.

    It's just too easy to toss the race card. Sometimes facing difficult truths is required
     
  3. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2010
    Messages:
    55,682
    Likes Received:
    43,473
    When I post here I assume that I am not responding to the comment section of the Blaze. Yes, I do agree that posters here a far more rational than the comment section of youtube and the Blaze.
     
  4. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2010
    Messages:
    55,682
    Likes Received:
    43,473
    Why do you keep on ignoring the 100 years of disenfranchisement after slavery was abolished?

    Barely one generation has passed since the ending of establishment racism(some say it still exists). That is 340 years of establishment disenfranchisement targeting one race that ended roughly 45 years ago. Do you honestly believe that it takes a race only 45 years to catch up from 340 years of establishment racism.
     
  5. peleincubus

    peleincubus Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2002
    Messages:
    26,722
    Likes Received:
    15,003
    I wonder if it genetics that causes black people not to tip in the service industry.
     
  6. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2006
    Messages:
    27,105
    Likes Received:
    3,756
    You're right. Go back in time and prevent all slavery.
     
  7. JayGoogle

    JayGoogle Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2007
    Messages:
    52,234
    Likes Received:
    45,022
    It surely accounts for more than Music...you know not all black people listen to hip-hop? That Hip-hop is a genre that is shared across the world right? Sure African Americans help create the genre but the same can be said for Jazz...

    Also more than Movies, first of all AA's don't have this big stake in Hollywood and a lot of the movies that are released are of the Tyler Perry variety. As in movies about family values, whose antagonist is a man that leaves a mother behind to raise a family, and always reminding the viewers to believe in God and have faith in God. That's the standard "Black" movie that is according to you, a problem.

    Which reminds me, it's crazy that conservatives love to blame "Black Culture" when it is so steeped in religion, the very religion that they try to legislate by.

    Yeah Slavery was a LONG time ago...

    The Civil Rights Movement ended in '68...not 1868, 1968. Big players in the movement like Jesse Jackson still live today...
     
  8. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2010
    Messages:
    55,682
    Likes Received:
    43,473
    Why do you people always do this. Why do you only mention slavery. Why not also include the 100 years of disproportionate educational funding due to school segregation AFTER slavery. It seems like a common deflector for your types. "Stop injecting slavery. That ended over 130 years." and completely ignore the 100 years after slavery.
     
    1 person likes this.
  9. cmoak1982

    cmoak1982 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    18,085
    Likes Received:
    22,671
    My whole premise was accountability, no matter the reasons or excuses each individual has to be responsible for their own actions and choices is all. I had it rough growing up as did many in my area, it wasn't race based just poorer area. I'm good now, got out of a bad situation as did many others who I grew up with, and they were all types of people and races. I know my side of town, good people for the most part who had bad luck and made the most of what they got is all. I get aggravated when people try to say its so much worse for one group than it is for others. I'm not saying the things you listed aren't true at all, I'm saying if you let that be the reason you don't get out of the cycle then that's on you as an individual. I'm also not saying it's easy but it's more than possible. The funny thing is when me and my boys talk it's not about race that keeps them down its money. This is my bubble, but I can honestly say I speak for a large area that has it pretty bad. Maybe it's different where I'm from, I don't know but if we can better ourselves then I don't see a reason why others can't.
     
  10. rudan

    rudan Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2006
    Messages:
    1,441
    Likes Received:
    65
    No slavery would most likely mean there would be no blacks here. Too bad for slavery :rolleyes:
     
  11. TheRealist137

    TheRealist137 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2009
    Messages:
    35,425
    Likes Received:
    22,560
    You're presuming that everyone has the same determination that you do. That's just not true.

    A real comparison is a white person in a poor upbringing and a black person in a poor upbringing. Both people have zero determination. Chances are the white person will still end up being more successful than the black person. That's the problem.
     
  12. cmoak1982

    cmoak1982 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    18,085
    Likes Received:
    22,671
    That could be it for sure. But don't complain about your situation if you have no drive to get better. Plus where I grew up it is predominately a minority area, I'm not speaking for only whites where I grew up, tons of my black friends have gone on to be very successful, again maybe it's my area or the people I associated with but still it is possible. Definitely not possible if you don't have any determination. Again I'm not saying black folks or minorities don't have it hard, but in general all lower income races have it hard period.
     
  13. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2006
    Messages:
    27,105
    Likes Received:
    3,756
    Less of a deflection and more mocking your r****ded ass post.
     
  14. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2010
    Messages:
    55,682
    Likes Received:
    43,473
    O please explain to me the r****dness. My layman's brain needs your wisdom.
     
  15. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2006
    Messages:
    27,105
    Likes Received:
    3,756
    I'm aware of your shortcomings but I'm afraid you are beyond hope. Sorry.
     
  16. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2010
    Messages:
    55,682
    Likes Received:
    43,473
    Instead of breaking down my premises and assertions you resort to ad hominem attacks. Please explain to me why 100 years of disenfranchisement and establishment racisim through segragetion post slavery should have no bearing on the current predicament African Americans are currently in today.

    Also please list my shortcomings so I can rectify them. Thank you. Apparently you have an incredible skill of detecting them through BBS posts. Amazing talent you haven't here... unless they are just empty insults generated from an incapability of refuting my posts.
     
    #176 fchowd0311, Aug 14, 2014
    Last edited: Aug 14, 2014
  17. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2006
    Messages:
    27,105
    Likes Received:
    3,756
    You have Northside Storm/MacBeth disease. Figure it out yourself dude.
     
  18. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

    Joined:
    May 15, 2000
    Messages:
    28,028
    Likes Received:
    13,051

    Quality contributions. Nice job. When you're done with your tantrum, please provide the root cause of the issue being discussed.
     
  19. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2010
    Messages:
    55,682
    Likes Received:
    43,473
    Don't spend enough time on the BBS to have knowledge of "syndromes" certain posters on this message board have. So unless they are empty ad hominem attacks that are generated from an incapability of breaking down and refuting my assersions please elaborate or you could actually tell me why 100 years of establishment racism through segregation post abolishment of slavery should have no bearing on the current predicament African Americans face today.
     
  20. dandorotik

    dandorotik Member

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2002
    Messages:
    10,855
    Likes Received:
    3,752
    I think that you have to look at both slavery and the aftermath. You have to consider what happened between the end of slavery and the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Then you have to consider the remnants of discrimination that still existed after that. Along with that, you have to acknowledge that there will always be some that use race as an excuse. While acknowledging that there will always be some who want to pretend that there isn't prejudice, when there is.

    It's complex, for sure.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now