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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Two Sandwiches, Jul 11, 2014.

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  1. Francis3422

    Francis3422 Member

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    Would we ultimately end up paying Bledsoe more than Harden?
     
  2. Moonscope

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    Can Bledsoe be paid more than Harden? I thought his max is the same as Harden was paid last season (or something close to that).

    Also, how the hell did we get a team option in Harden's contract?
     
  3. basketballholic

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    If you're trying to say we're better than NOP, I agree. I think they're better than us in the front court with Asik and Davis starting. But I think they're back court is going to get them in trouble throughout the season as Gordon simply doesn't care to be there, Evans is inefficient, and Holiday is very mediocre from everywhere but the 3-point line.

    My evaluation is based on their team playing. Not based on some hypothetical higher chance of major injury.


    Don't know what you're trying to say here. My instincts tell me there is a correlation between major injury (an injury causing a player to miss a large amount of games) and minutes on a per game basis. I think the more minutes a player piles up on his body the more likely he is to suffer a severe injury that causes him to miss major time or debilitates him to the point where he has to be limited in minutes or games. Now....I don't have absolute proof of that but I think it's a pretty reasonable assumption.
     
  4. Moonscope

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    I understand that, however, why don't the Spurs start Ginobli? The answer is that you HAVE to have someone that can lead your second unit and Dragic would be that guy.

    Dragic then would be eligible for 6th man of the year and if he won it he would have Most Improved 1 year, and 6th man the next, as well as his All-NBA 3rd team selection.
     
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    ^Ginobili understands his impact coming off the bench and has bought into an established system

    I don't think the idea of coming off the bench would sit well with Dragic, and I wouldn't want to test it, since he becomes an FA after a year.
     
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    Manu didn't start coming off the bench until he was 34 years old.
     
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    i was gonna write that, but i didn't know how old he was
     
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    i will blow moreys head off if he declines that option looking for the future.
     
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    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    I don't what you are talking about but Manu has only started more than half of the games in a single season 3 times in his 12 year career.
     
  10. Pieman2005

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    Wow, what..? Dude surely this a joke post? :confused:

    You're trying to replace statistics and odds with a form of karma, and actually believe it.
     
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    Lol. Cut him some slack already. People have been giving it to him all day... :grin:
     
  12. Aleron

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    If the coin was perfectly balanced, the odds are still 50/50

    However the more likely result given that were several SD's away from the expected is a fault in the coin is causing it comes up heads more often, so you'd bet on heads the next time.
     
  13. cbk41

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    Independent Bernoulli Trials :p
     
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    And that's fine. that's all they got. Dealing in minutia while missing the big point. ;) One misstatement.

    But no one can refute my argument that there is no way you can say that Pelicans have a better chance of major injury than the Rockets and it be anything but a guess. There is no predictive model for valuating each NBA teams odds of suffering a major injury during a specified period of time.
     
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    Anyone an actuary? I'm sure they could refute you real quick
     
  16. Aleron

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    What do you think the clause in the nba insurance policy allowing them to refuse to insure a player comes from? pure hypotheticals? I'd bet money Eric Gordon ends up on that list next contract up and if they had the ability to do it during the contract (and not just at its signing), he would be on it right now.

    And what do they base it on? wait for it....history of injury that has a high chance of re-occurring (ie not freak injuries)
     
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    They would have already if they could.
     
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    Well I passed 3 actuarial exams so that doesn't really make me an actuary but I have some qualifications.

    I don't think you need any of that to know that the Pelicans' major guys are more injury prone than the Rockets' major guys. Dwight and Harden have barely missed any games the past few seasons. Eric Gordon has missed a ton.

    It is just a guess, though. I never like to deal with absolutes. Let's just say it is a pretty confident guess, though.
     
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    Once again,

    this is a separate issue but same principle applies.

    History of injury is just one of the criteria for the insurance company. Another huge factor for them is amount at risk. And also age, minutes played, role, style of play, body type....there's undoubtedly a myriad of factors that the insurance company uses to determine the players they won't insure. It's much more than just high history of injury.
     
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    Show us the math that proves that the Pelicans Davis and Gordon (not really a primary player) have a higher probability of suffering a serious injury next season than do Harden and Howard.

    Once again, being "injury-prone" (whatever that undefined term is) is only one factor.
     
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