Why is high crime rate in the black community ignored

It's just so obvious to see that you have no idea what you are talking about and just like all black folks are not "angry thugs" not all white folks have it made.

 

And what bothers me most is statistics are just ignored. Like the one that has to be parroted every month about the number of black people that go to jail for weed compared to the number of whites...despite equal usage. It just goes completely ignored by some.

Well, what disadvantages are there to being white in America?

Yeah, some people hate white people...but that's not what the discussion is about. Just like the comic isn't saying that all white people have it good or that there aren't people that are racist against whites.

It's saying that when you are white in America, there are certain benefits you have that others don't. Whether you realize it or not.

So I ask again, what are disadvantages in America that come with being white? Because I name many that come with being black.

 

It's so easy for y'all to just say y'all just don't know man, y'all got it good. It's easy to say man they got it easy, that's how they get stuff they want and that's how they got a job, it's called hustle and hard work for the majority of lower income PEOPLE no matter the color to make it better, not whining and complaining about how hard they got it.

 

This isn't about what you experienced.

It's about this and this and this too oh and this as well...

This is not about all white people have it good. Of course not, no one is saying that all white people have it made.

It's just saying that your skin color doesn't get in the way of success. (Well, maybe if you are trying to be a rapper or NBA player or NFL RB admittedly) Sometimes for young kids of color, it does. NOT all the time...but sometimes.

 

Nope, I'm not saying anything. I'm providing facts. Not anecdotal evidence.

 

You can't name "real" disadvantages to being black in America just subjective statistics that say blacks get a raw deal. There are no real disadvantages to being white in America besides no matter what you say someone is gonna say you're racist, but there are disadvantages that I've had for being poor for sure.

I'm not trying to say that black folks have it easy, I am saying there are more opportunities out there if you bust your butt. All I'm really saying is as an individual take care of your own stuff, don't make excuses whether they have validity or not, hold yourself accountable for your own actions. This goes for any race and individual, and I know there are a bunch of minorities from my neck of the woods who have done just that, from experience.

 

You can find studies on the internet to support almost any claim, they are subjective at best. When discussing crime statistics and sentencing for minorities vs whites there are still important details not known, priors, economic status, etc. if everything was equal and in a vacuum I would say the percentages would equal out more, maybe not all the way fair because there is bias and discrimination period but I would be willing to bet lower income criminals in General would get longer sentences vs more privileged criminals.

 

Ok, NO ONE is denying that. This isn't about hard work unless you think black people aren't willing to work hard. I'm not saying that's what you think. I think you are just stuck on your own experience.

Yes there are disadvantages to being black. in America.

Ok, how are these statistics subjective?

 

So why are white people serving shorter sentences for the same crimes and going to jail less for the same drug possession despite near equal amount of use?

Hows this subjective?

 

Profiling happens, it happened to me and most of my white buddies where I grew up. Yes I'm speaking from experience and not necessarily on a global scale but as far as my community goes, there's not a bunch of complaining about being black and how hard it is for them, it's hard for everyone and we just accept it and do what we can to make it better. My original post was about being accountable, that's really all I'm saying. Do lower income minorities have it hard? Yes, but so do other lower income people. It's not about race.

As far as the other stuff, that's why I really don't like getting in to these types of threads and would whether discuss personally. I don't like the growing stigmas and stereotypes associated with white folks right now, it really does seem that it's being promoted and bashing whites is the cool thing to do because hey your ancestors did stuff to y'all's ancestors so we deserve it. You don't like the stereotypes associated with minorities, neither do I is all.

 

hi donald sterling

 

Give me more info backing up specifics, all else being equal besides race. Give me those numbers and then I can say yeah y'all got it worse. If everything is in a vacuum : age range, criminal history, economic status, and for these purposes let's go with opposite race judge, do you think those numbers would be different? I'd be willing to bet sentences would be more evened out and there would be a direct correlation with how much money you have with how much time served or not.

 

Who you talkin about? Me or op?

 

90% confidence interval is a statistical term. Basically, if you take a random draw from those numbers an infinite number of times, 90% of those drawn would fall within a certain distance, based on the standard deviation, from their average. 90% isn't a particularly stringent confidence interval. In the social sciences, the basic standard is a bit over 95%, two standard deviations above and below the mean.

A good basic primer on confidence intervals...

http://www.census.gov/did/www/saipe/methods/statecounty/ci.html

 

I guess man, no one has stats that specific within a large population. If you want to believe that skin color has no impact in America, that's on you. It's not reality though.

You have to see that racial discrimination is not dead, we still have people living from the civil rights movement, don't forget that. America is not far removed from the era of when racism was acceptable for many.

Also, I'm not saying your experience didn't happen...but it feels like when black people are saying "Hey, this is OUR experience" you don't seem to be too willing to listen to it and toss it aside, even with the stats behind them.

 

Not sayin at all that racism is dead man, at all, I think some form of prejudice will always be just because we're human and stupid.
I don't mean that at all regarding y'all's experience and don't want to marginalize it either, there's no doubt about it, I grew up with these people man, I know first hand what y'all go through. What I'm saying is it's not as easy for whites as y'all make it seem is all, being broke is being broke no matter what. I don't want a pissin contest on who has it harder, the only real thing I was saying is basically man up no matter what the challenges are.

 

Did get a little defensive with all the ignorant white man stuff, but no biggie. Got more stuff to worry about than some words.

 

Usage is one thing, but what about say, dealing or growing, which are things which should be punished more harshly than usage? I have no real stake one way or the other, but could that be a possible explanation?

 

The truth is the world is a harsh place, I think most people will admit to this. It's not fair, cruel, etc etc...yeah people can man up and move on but the issues should never be tossed aside in favor of just manning up I guess. Still have to talk about the issues, yes the economical ones and the racial ones too...and I'll agree that racism isn't as prevalent as it was 50 years ago any ways.

 

Honestly it could be, but these stats are never so specific.

If anyone has more specific stats, I'd love to see them (not saying that sarcastically since tone can't be implied on the internet of course)