Normally I would laugh and agree. But I do feel like DMo is coming hard this summer. Watched him in Vegas. I think he's coming with the jumper. No....Kanter is not a small 4. He would be a big stretch-4. Dare I say along the lines of Love. (Youch...I said it.) Nowhere near as good obviously. But the same style of player. Shooting ability? Of the guys you listed I would say the order would be: 1. Delfino 2. Morris 3. Kanter 4. Patterson 5. Casspi Yes, Kanter over Patterson and Casspi. Patterson has MADE himself a good shooter through a lot of hard work. Casspi is a 3-4 and his midrange game sux and he did underperform on his 3-balls. Kanter is a better pure shooter than either of those guys. He's got more natural shooting ability than either guy.
You've got me thinking about Zeller. Obviously I'd love to see a hardworking guy with potential come into this team to fill that PF hole. Like Morey said, we have to be the one that find the "Chandler Parsons" not the one that gives the "Chandler Parsons" a max contract. That can include finding worth where another team doesn't see it. Zeller even seems like a possibility from the fact that Charlotte drafted a very similar young player in Vonleh. Do you find it plausible or are you more just a fan of Zeller?
Yeah. I only looked at his statline from last year basically, did not watch him at all, but now that I look closer it's really only his efficiency that went down, not his counting stats. Still gets to the line at a good clip, so it seems fair to blame that on playing on a trash Jazz team next to Favors. I was skeptical so I double checked. He's actually really good from the left corner.
If Charlotte has half a brain there's no way they trade Zeller to us for anything short of DMo, Beverley, and the Pelies pick. I've watched Zeller since Indiana. Charlotte did draft Vonleigh which does cause me to hope that they may possibly turn loose of Zeller if the price is right. They've now got Big Al and Biyombo at the 5 And Zeller and Vonleigh at the 4. So maybe they would part with Zeller especially if DMO shows something at the beginning of the season.
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Hakeem is not a finesse player, never was. Uber athleticism, agility, footwork and ferocity does not equal finesse. Basketball alcoholic doesn't know what he's talking about.
When put that way I can agree, but saying he was a finesse only player is a derogatory IMO. Finesse usually connotes soft and Hakeem was the polar opposite of soft.
umm are people really talking about trying to acquire Zeller/Kanter!?! lmao Kanter is a low motor malcontent and Zeller would be sent to RGV... TJones has shown so much more than Zeller has.
Hakeem has referred to himself many times as a finesse player. It's true he could use power against smaller players. But against Moses, Ewing, Shaq, Kemp, Laimbeer, Mark Eaton, Joe Barry Carroll, Kevin Duckworth, and all the other top power players in the league Hakeem has acknowledged many times he beat them with finesse. I did watch those games and I concur with the man himself. He was a finesse player for the majority of his career especially as he aged and bigger stronger centers came into the league. Finesse doesn't mean a player lacks strength or explosion (power). Hakeem was simply smart enough to develop great finesse play that he could use to beat guys that were bigger and heavier than he instead of burning up all his energy trying to bang his way to 25 points against guys that outweighed him by 30 - 50 pounds.
Not that I wouldn't love Zeller, but that's too much for us to be giving up for a guy that is still a bit of a question mark. Take Beverley out of the equation, and I'd consider it if the Bledsoe/Dragic ship sails. It might be a fair haul for Charlotte, but too much to give up if we plan on contending.
There is a difference between refined/elite skills and finesse. Hakeem may not have been Shaq sized but he played with power and ferocity, especially early in his career. Olajuwon did not just play in greatest big man era in the NBA, he flat out dominated. Takes more than finesse to do that. Did you really watch him play in real time?
Traveling!! Im hearing by multiple sauces that it's said in Republica Dominicana that Cisco has agreed to a deal with Houston. (some dominican friends from my year living in NY...). Don't know the veracity of it, just commenting it here...
Im 47 years old. I've probably watched every minute of the man's career. Yes he played with power. But he used finesse against all the big power boys that were bigger and stronger than he. I watched the games. I know how he played. And I know what he himself says about his career. He didn't use power to beat Mark Eaton. He didn't use power to beat Shaq or Pat Ewing or Bill Laimbeer. It was all his twinkle toes moves. None of those big boys could hang with his moves. Dekembe, Laimbeer, Koncak, Kleine, Shaq, Parish, Rik Smits, Tree Rollins, Danny Schayes, Rony Seikaly, Lasalle Thompson, Felton Spencer, Alonzo Mourning, Bill Wennington, Bill Cartwright, Kevin Duckworth, Moses Malone, Shawn Bradley, Benoit Benjamin......and on and on......he beat them with his finesse moves. I repeat. Finesse doesn't mean he didn't have power or use power. But the plain truth of the matter is for the better part of his career Hakeem was actually undersized going up against those guys I named above and many others. He used his quick feet and spinning moves to go around them and get to the hole. He didn't go down into the blocks and bang, bang, bang....like the notorious Shaq did until they crumpled up and fell down and then dunk it home. He would go down there and lay his body on them just to feel where they were at so he could then execute his moves, create space, duck under and get his layups and hooks. No more on Hakeem. The man himself has said over and over that he was a finesse player. That doesn't mean he was weak and not powerful.
