1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Rockets Sign Kostas Papanikolaou

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by BimaThug, Aug 8, 2014.

?

Do you like the Rockets signing of Kostas Papanikolaou, using their MLE to do it?

  1. YES

    460 vote(s)
    83.0%
  2. NO

    94 vote(s)
    17.0%
  1. Asian Sensation

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 1999
    Messages:
    18,297
    Likes Received:
    7,450
    In Euro League there must be a multiplier on stats where points are tripled and rebounds are doubled. So that would put him at 19.5ppg and 7rpg.
     
  2. Asian Sensation

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 1999
    Messages:
    18,297
    Likes Received:
    7,450
    Too much rooking outside and context. I confuse. I good with real numbers.
     
  3. Spooner

    Spooner Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2009
    Messages:
    8,054
    Likes Received:
    2,844
    He has a passion for the game. Simple as that. He leaves it all on the floor every game. While there are a lot of great athletes in the NBA, not everyone plays with that kind of intensity and love of the game. I honestly know just as little about how his game will translate, but I guarantee he will give it his all every single night. The dude is a warrior. I was ecstatic when we traded for him. Those kind of guys who truly love the game and have a high bball IQ always have potential to be good NBA players.
     
  4. cbk41

    cbk41 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2010
    Messages:
    1,529
    Likes Received:
    151
    Every move that doesn't reincarnate Wilt Chamberlains' ability to put up 100-pt games is technically a 'bad move' outside of context. Now I know you are just being deliberately obtuse ;)
     
  5. Ottomaton

    Ottomaton Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2000
    Messages:
    19,202
    Likes Received:
    15,371
    If you people are really going to call him K Pop, you should just go all the way and give him the nickname "Gangnam Style", because every time I read K Pop, that's what pops into my head.
     
  6. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    99,786
    Likes Received:
    49,357
    Bad name.... I go with the conventional and common Papa "Niko" or Papa Smurfau
     
  7. bmd

    bmd Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2012
    Messages:
    7,749
    Likes Received:
    3,531
    Bill Worrell is going to have a hell of a time pronouncing his name.
     
  8. Dhoward12

    Dhoward12 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2014
    Messages:
    4,408
    Likes Received:
    90
    These dudes better produce, Or imma be making the [​IMG] all season long when they enter the game
     
  9. tycoonchip

    tycoonchip Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 1999
    Messages:
    7,191
    Likes Received:
    5,725
    If this kid ends up like a Kukoc or Peja Stojakavic caliber, then we are going to destroy the NBA. The kid has alot of promise. Add Dragic to this mix and we are going to be extremely scary! Slogan for the year should be $h!T on Parsons and the Mavs.
     
  10. Thodoris.galano

    Thodoris.galano New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2014
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    I've read this whole thread and I have a few comments.

    First of all, given your experience with Greek players, I can understand the distrust but I think you'll agree with me that when it comes to basketball (and I assume you're all fans) this counts for nothing.

    Second, I can also understand the mistrust of someone you don't really know. But, I'm sure you realize that filling the lack of knowledge with numbers and statistics (and a glance at them for that matter) does not compensate for that.

    NBA and EU are a completely different basketball game. Not only because the spatial arrangement of the field is different, which of course has a huge impact, but also because the athletic education of the players is radically different. While I love NBA as well EU, and while arguably you can see flashes of magnificence in NBA that you will never see in EU, a big chunk of the time it's full of basketball moves I don't understand. People bringing the ball down and jump shooting, offence after offence, everyone doing crossovers and flashy lay ups, little movement and a lot of isolation. EU is nothing like that. There are much much much much less attepts in shooting, and the majority of basketball is ball movement and transition through systems. The basketball in EU, as paradoxical as this might seem, is more intellectual and more physical.

    Now, I don't mean we have body types like LBJ or DH in EU, I just mean that the lack of space, and the increased discipline in defence, make for more contacts. It is there that elements not really inscribed in statistics come into play. Papa (that's how people call him in Greece even some times), has all of them. He has the basketball IQ to see something coming and decide upon it in a quick manner, he is a hustler since I can remember him growing up in the team of Aris, never gives up in defence, never let's a game go, always giving everything.

    I know this might not impress in the NBA, especially when I rarely see people acting like this. When I do see it though, they almost always have had an impact on their team's play. As I think Papa will have for you. When it comes to the objective difficulties (heavy ass SF of the NBA), I believe he can over compensate by outwitting them. But that's me.

    When it comes to his stats, it's better if I talk to you about his progression. In the beginning of his career, people said he is extremely athletic, very good in defence, fast, with good hand reach so a very good rebounder. But he had to fix his shooting. Next year, he had 52%. That shows, if anything, that he is a hard worker. He knew his flaw, he worked on it, and he had the guts to try and show it on the floor.

    This mentality is expressed, in his case, in two ways: decision making and achievements. The reason he rarely makes mistakes is not because he isn't involved. But because he has wits and patience. Two qualities you rarely inscribe adequately in stat papers. Talking about achievements, he's 24 now, and he is already considered a veteran. 6 years of top lvl basketball, winning 2 Euroleague titles (a quite demanding league), in a row, playing a VERY important role in both final fours (where the ball is heavy). This mentality, even if it doesn't translate in numbers, is an important asset to a championship contenter. He might not impress but he will not endanger the team, when he's out there.

    In reality, I don't know what exactly he will bring to your team. Hell, I don't even know if you read this far. But I do know that all he has ever gone is forward, not up, not down. Just moving, struggling, hustling, forward (ironically that's his position in Bball too). And that's why I know, I'm sure, I will not be disappointed with him in the NBA, no matter where he turns up.

    Good luck with the season Rockets!
     
  11. spankz141

    spankz141 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2006
    Messages:
    939
    Likes Received:
    358
    Just curious... When is the earliest Morey can trade him?
     
  12. Thodoris.galano

    Thodoris.galano New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2014
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    It's pretty clear he's not going to be a Kukoc, Kukoc had an impact on basketball at even age 18. The only Greek player I see near Kukoc is now 16 and just singed to Iowa :cool:
     
  13. sammy

    sammy Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2002
    Messages:
    18,949
    Likes Received:
    3,528
    One poster said sep 5
     
  14. Mr Chuck Norris

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2008
    Messages:
    4,526
    Likes Received:
    1,745
    This guy looks like garbage to me. What the hell are yall seeing. Well I know the Bucks wanted him a while back, who can we scrunge off that team?
     
  15. Htownballer38

    Htownballer38 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2013
    Messages:
    9,069
    Likes Received:
    1,286
    Looks like a pretty good three point shooter, terrible from the free throw line and solid around the rim.

    Could this be Casspi 2.0?

    I see we have a lot of fans extremely excited about this move. So are you guys saying he is the next Toni Kukoc?
     
  16. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

    Joined:
    May 15, 2000
    Messages:
    28,028
    Likes Received:
    13,051
    I dunno but in the highlights he looks rather slow. I don't know how that meshes with him being a good defender.
     
  17. Jayzers_100

    Jayzers_100 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2013
    Messages:
    3,260
    Likes Received:
    2,934
    He also played for the Razorbacks and ha a couple of decent seasons, FWIW
     
  18. Nook

    Nook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    60,018
    Likes Received:
    133,307
    I have watched a fair amount of him the last few seasons. He has improved quite a bit and is now a good player in Europe but he isn't a star and quite honestly isn't any better than a number of other guys from over there that they could have just signed as free agents.
     
  19. Crashlanded19

    Crashlanded19 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2012
    Messages:
    8,585
    Likes Received:
    3,327
    i won't judge him until he puts on a rockets jersey and plays..highlight videos are what they are HIGHLIGHTS..idk what this kid is gonna be in the nba...i can spot a bust a mile away but i'm not sure with this one. only thing i noticed is that he's slow it looks likes he jogging when he is indeed sprinting. but when you can shoot like that who gives ****. delfino was slow and that guy who just got overpaid in _allas was slow as hell...everybody just wait.
     
  20. baubo

    baubo Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2014
    Messages:
    2,192
    Likes Received:
    1,045
    Unfortunately, the good real numbers wanted too much money and we couldn't give it to them. At least Morey has a good track record looking outside. So there's hope.
     

Share This Page