Perhaps so, but the fact is that the Palestinians aren't doing anything Zionists didn't do. It's only a matter that Zionists were successful and the Palestinians were not. Might makes right is basically what you are saying. I do agree that the tactics the Palestinians are employing are not going to lead to it having more land. But the reason they are doing it is obvious. People want to portray them as terrorists, but I think they are far more seeing themselves as fighting against oppression than trying to terrorize the Israeli people. Ultimately, Israel's security will not be made by incursions into Gaza. All they are doing is forcing groups like Hamas to evolve tactically. We are seeing this in Iraq.
It's not that might makes right.....again stop trying to inject morality into the situation. What matters is if what you are doing is helping or hurting your people. What the Palestinians are doing is hurting their people and they are too foolish to realize it. Also, I don't doubt that they tell themselves that they are fighting against oppression, most people who do stupid things convince themselves of a false reality. Since the Palestinian people seemingly won't ever wise up, I think the only way to get lasting peace is to ship them out to dozens of countries and disperse "their" land among the legitimate countries in the region. Make them Americans and Canadians, and Brits, and French, and Germans, and so on.
This is some scary and depressing stuff. Israeli politicians are the biggest scumbags and their intentions are clearly in line with that of Hitler. I'm not just saying that. Really think about what they are trying to do here and look at what Hitler did. Forget about the numbers, just think about the actions. None of this would be happening if Israel stopped taking over Palestinian land.
And Israel killed 150 innocent men women and children during a cease fire by lying about a kidnapped soldier.
You don't have to go to any Arab website to see the extremism shown by Israel. Israel has definitely overreacted over and beyond. They sent the Gaza people back another 10 years easy. Targeting religious mosques and schools to get to militants who can't really harm you is wacko stuff. You have the 4th strongest military power in the world and you are fighting a group of people who don't even have tanks or planes. 85% of the deaths have been of innocent people. I never gave a crap about the Palestinians but as a human being you can't help yourself to really want the suffering to stop. This is state terrorism, however you want to define such a term. Anytime there is such disproportionate damage its up to the person in power to stop first and man up. As I said before this "war" is like a 13 year old taking on Mike Tyson in his prime. Mike should do whatever it takes to defend himself, I don't mind self-defence. But if the kid can't really do any real damage to you,...if you have any humanity, you stop. It's inhumane to beat him to a pulp. Israel crossed that line long time ago.
I don't have any sympathy for what Israel has done to protect itself from a terrorist organization (including those that elected Hamas) that refuses to accept Israel's existence. They fire rockets behind mosques, schools, hospitals, and use "civilians" as human shields. They misfire rockets into their own schools, and even stage deaths to make it look like Israel is targeting these places with no regard which is completely the opposite. Instead of using money to build schools, roads, businesses, what have the Palestinians done to help themselves? Nothing. They build tunnels.
Well your 13 year old r****ded kid that keeps attacking Tyson should probably be put in a straitjacket and institutionalized for being mentally ill/r****ded to the point of being a danger to himself and others.....same goes for the Palestinians. They are a danger to themselves and others and are mentally ill/r****ded judging by their actions. We need someone to step in and take them away so they can get the help they need.
A majority of Palestinians did not vote for Hamas. Even if 90% voted for Hamas what you are describing is collective punishment. Most of the world understand that punishing an entire population for the actions of a govt. is not moral. The Palestinians don't have permission to dig wells, or the water to sustain themselves. They don't have access to the fertile lands in the Gaza, they don't have the ability to make any sustainable life for themselves. So there is very little they can do to help themselves.
please stop comparing United States to Zionists State ... one is a democracy and one is not .. one every citizen has a freedom and one is not .. there is no other country in modern era that can be compared to Israel after former South Africa regime meltes
Well Jimmy Carter speaks on Israel's latest slaughter. This is a good article. Some excerpts. Jimmy Carter is the American who has had the most success in solving the Israel/Palestine Problem. 1) Not the simplistic Hamas as ligitimate "terrorists" nuff said common meme. repeated so frequently on this site. 2) 3) 4) 5) 6)
Too many ziotrolls on cfans. Deluded dimwits dispensing destructive demagoguery despite their definitive dearth in knowledge of the death cult that is Zionism. Damn fools
Well let's hear from a fairly conservative human rights group. http://mondoweiss.net/2014/08/wieseltier-indifference-wholehearted.html ... 1. Kenneth Roth, executive director of Human Rights Watch, interviewed by Nermeen Shaikh at Democracy Now! Roth doesn’t parse anything; he says Israel committed war crimes: And no matter how many times the Israeli military spokesmen scream, “Human shields! Human shields!” most of the people being killed in Gaza are being killed because Israel is paying insufficient care to saving civilian lives. There’s been case after case in which Israel has used the wrong weaponry or has shot at people with many civilians around. And these, in our view, are war crimes. He calls on Palestine to go to the ICC as “the only realistic proposal” to deal with these war crimes
Yerp. Until you and the racist cfans members like you stop defending Israel's colonialist enterprise and their real personal attacks on the families in Gaza, I will continue to call you out for what you truly are: misguided scumbags with racial prejudices. I won't stop just because these words hurt your 'personal' feelings, there's a massacre going on in Gaza, all part of a decades long genocidal enterprise. So ya, you're a scumbag.
Perhaps fpr tactical reasons you should be a bit more moderate in your language, hard as that might be with the criminal slaughter in Gaza. However, it is sort of noticeable that there is a definite dearth of knowledge in general among the supporters of Zionist Israel. They repeat the same talking points. They seek no new knowledge as it might threaten their simplistic views.
Agreed, except that Cheviots and ATW appear to be lost causes. I feel calling them out on their nonsense with biting words appropriately categorizes their spew as unacceptable and manipulative. They are truly scummy.
