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Disgusted By JLin Trade

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by cincymmb, Jul 18, 2014.

  1. Razsan

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    Oh I get...cute internet pictures plus a derogatory remark. NOW I understand how this internet BBS thing works
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  2. cincymmb

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    Great post SuperKev....could not agree more.
     
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    I doubt you would have to give a first a second and cash to trade players on our bench this year. So arguably our bench is better this year.
     
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    That is a big improvement. Glad I could help.
     
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    why...
     
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    This thread is like herpes. :eek:
     
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    Sigh...That isn't at all how it works.
     
  8. tinman

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    Lof germs
     
  9. cincymmb

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    You have a valid point, our bench sucked last year. it was Lin, Asik and a bunch of horrible scrubs led by Omri Casspi. Losing our only two decent bench players has me concerned. Dorsey and Ish are fun players to have, but I would have rather Morey got us more proven bench players like Hawes and Thomas. Not so sure that the additions of Ariza and Adrian, combined with the losses of Parsons, Asik, & Lin have put us where we need to be to win a Championship.
     
  10. SuperKev

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    It had everything to do with how well he was regarded. If he was regarded like above average PG's in the league other teams would have *easily taken him. Heck we were offering him in exchange for ***nothing in return. Instead it was nothing and we pay you $8M + 1st + a 2nd. Now as has been pointed out the 2nd is effectively a chance at a 2nd but still. It's 2 players, plus Lin, plus $8m for ... drum roll please... nothing.
     
  11. SuperKev

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    Our bench players aren't regarded at all, not poorly or positively with the possible exceptions of Ish and Gee where the regard is somewhat negative. Generally 'no' regard is probably better than 'negative' regard. That said it is poor logic to try to peg their on-court production by what you think a team might offer you for them (or not offer for that matter). The only measure of a bench who have very few NBA games is how they perform on the court in real games. If some of them stink it up we'll have to pay somebody to take them too. The interesting thing is Lin didn't really stink it up he was just average. I think part of the issue trading him was the fact team management has to treat him with kid gloves because he has a highly sensitive fan base.
     
  12. SuperKev

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    Uh we did include $8m cash and nothing in return literally offering it to anyone who would listen so no he was not traded easily. We had to sweeten the pot considerably.
     
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    Hawes and Thomas make about the same money as Lin and Asik. The point was to clear cap space. Otherwise they would have just kept Asik and Lin who at worst are equal to Thomas and Hawes.
     
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    What do you mean include 8m cash?

    Lakers give Rockets some cash in Lin trade, not the other way around.
     
  15. JustAGuy

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    Where in the world are you getting this "we did include $8M in cash" when under the CBA we can't even send out more than $3M in a year?

    We did not include 8M in cash. We could not include 8M in cash even if we wanted to.
     
  16. tinman

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    I'm so glad Jeremy Lin didn't get #17 when he was with the Rockets

    #17 =
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    Mario Elie doesn't turn the other cheek

    He gives the cheek the Kiss of Death
     
  17. Razsan

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    I think you might be mistaken on the details and we'll have to agree to disagree. Morey announced to the world that he was getting rid of assets to snare Chris Bosh. The other GM's reacted accordingly. And you have to remember, there weren't/aren't tons of teams looking for a PG, especially one with 8 Mill cap hit to absorb.
     
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    I did see this mentioned somewhere in one of the trade mags as well
    and mistakenly, propagated this mistake too.

    I am guessing that it is the differential between the cap hit and the
    actual amounts paid out (including the deferred payments ie.
    the 3.3M per year for the first 2 years, as Lin was 'only' paid $5M).

    Hmm... that doesnt work out to be $8M, does it.

    Man, these pro ball players seem to be paid a lot. :)
    But I guess they havent got many years to make hay
    while the sun shines.

    I googled it and found this in case anyone was interested.
    Average career length. 4.8 years.


    The Average NBA Player Will Make A Lot More In His Career Than The Other Major Sports

    """
    The average NBA player will make $US24.7 million in his career. That is based on an average salary of $US5.2 million and an average career length of 4.8 years and is $US18.6 million more than the career earnings for the average NFL player ($6.1 million).
    """
     
  19. SuperKev

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    Actually i agree with you on the mistaken information. It was reported that way in a couple of places. I still think my original thought that Lin wasn't regarded well enough to at least be accepted for no return salary without a couple of picks as sweeteners. It's good we didn't cover the balance that was outside of the cap hit externally.
     
  20. cincymmb

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    Disagree....while Hawes is not quite as good as Asik, Isiah Thomas is much better player than Lin (20ppg vs 12 ppg, same defense, and does not turn the ball over nearly as much). They both cost less then Asik and Lin this year and I can't believe Thomas signed with Phoenix for a paltry (NBA world only) 6 million dollars per year.
     

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