You're the one advocating a war of civilizations. Get out of here dude. You want Christians to take arms with your Zionist crazies to fight Islam all around the world. You're certifiable. Israel has stolen land for decades, inch by inch defying international law, having the US block UN resolutions against Israel, killing anyone they want without repercussion, invading other countries, bombing other countries while you occupy land illegally. Israel is every bit the scumbag that you're fighting. You're not the outpost of anything but Zionism.
for once I beg you- Just listen to what they are saying when they speak among themselves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-umTdeh_bQ
I don't have the NYT link, but a senior Israeli official was quoted as saying that particular part of the ceasefire was likely misunderstood by some. It sounds like the Hamas bombers/shaheeds/freedom fighter/kidnappers/holy fighters/whatever you want to call them waiting in the tunnels didn't get the memo.
Israel agreed to a ceasefire to conduct military operations on occupied territory without getting shot at. Agreed. I'm sure if Hamas were occupying parts of Israel to destroy Israeli jets and power plants they'd also be happy to agree to a ceasefire. What a dumb post dude. One side's motives are to destroy the opposition's military capabilities while keeping their own. Great job man.
I wouldn't be surprised if there are split off factions that are operating outside the "Hamas" umbrella. Lots of father's have lost kids, lots of teens lost their families;it would be very easy to get a group together and go rogue and willing to do any damage to the ones that killed their family. And the cycle continues.
I heard an Israeli spokesperson on CNN this morning saying it was misunderstood by some in the media but that it was a clear part of the agreement reached by the parties at the table. They also had a man on who works for some cooperation group that works with Hamas and the Israeli government. He was the one who apparently got the deal for the last soldier that was captured. Anyway, he said that the problem here is that the political wing of Hamas that negotiated this deal has no authority over the elite military group (about 3000 soldiers) for Hamas and that never intend to honor a ceasefire. Apparently he was told by an individual with Hamas that this group was instructed to tell their families that they would not be returning home from this conflict that each man in this unit is carry a suicide belt.
Yes when leaders are saying they want to kill me, i tend to listen. I don't want to kill but as an Israeli and as someone that his whole family has been exterminated because of their religion (even though most of them didn't considered themselves religious) I am a bit sensitive when someone threatens and acts to eliminate me
I'm not sure why you are harping on Israel's motives here as if they are a secret. Israel said from the beginning they were going to destroy these tunnels. Who cares why they agreed to the ceasefire honestly? Hamas agreed to the terms as well and Israel wasn't breaking them by destroying the tunnels. I am glad to see you admit that the tunnels are military. Most Hamas sympathizers claim they are for "food."
O you have a hatred and distrust for people who killed your family? Palestinians don't share those feelings for their families I guess. Don't act like you and your tribe of people should be the only ones who should have sympathy. Palestinians can feel pain for the loss of their families also and thus create an irrational hatred of another group of people just like you did. Both sides have valid greivences. Even the terrorist organization Hamas is not pure unadulterated evil. They have greivences and many of their members are individuals like you who are fueled by hate and distrust because they lost family also.
I mean Hamas made it a full hour and a half before violating the cease-fire, that's pretty good for a terrorist organization.
Those factions you claim split off were from Hamas and using Hamas-created tunnels for their attack. Whether or not they still are Hamas, they were Hamas and Hamas has responsibility to keep its soldiers in line. They can't claim these soldiers didn't get the memo. Technically, Hamas broke the ceasefire.
It's easy to keep soldiers in line when they are a conventional military force with proper pay, logistics and arms. Hamas has the severe disadvantage here since they are not a well funded conventional fighting force. This is an unfair statement.
No we haven't really learned that. There is a report out there with no real evidence or information to back it up. It could be true, but it isn't something I would take just because one government says it without offering any evidence.
It's usually the military wings: Abu Ali Mustapha Brigades (PFLP) and the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigrades (Hamas). Since they operate in cells, it's not like Hamas has a top down command structure. It's compared a lot to the relationship between the IRA and Sinn Fein. Israel knows that there are limits of the control -- that's why they tolerate sporatic rocket fire throughout the year over the fence at Sderot, especially since Hamas usually polices them as part of their hudnas with Israel. But it's usually one of these groups that instigates retaliation from Israel and starts wars in the first place. Oh...and you probably know this, but for others...the PFLP are not "Jihadists," they don't even self-identify as Muslims really -- they are secular ultra-left wingers and are some of the most violent of all.
It's not unfair. Hamas is fighting a war. They have the responsibility of notifying their soldiers despite their logistics. They struck first after an agreed-upon ceasefire. Are those not facts or realities of war?
Again, you are wrong to think that I have hatred toward Germans, far from that. It is not their fault what their grandfathers has done. And I do not have any hatred for Palestinians, far from that. I feel sick to my stomach to see their pain and suffering. But I am afraid from the Jihad Islamist ideology that is taking over the Arab world- from Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Syria, almost Egypt (luckily they understood fast where the Muslim brotherhood was taking them and took them out)- that is a real threat to me as an Israeli and should be to you as an American and European. I do not support of the settlements in the west bank but I do not look the other way and think that if that will stop then a solution will appear. It will appear when the strong Palestine leaders will acknowledge the right of Israel to exist and will not demand after that they want Haifa, Tel aviv and Ako- that hasn't happened yet and I pray that after Hamas will go down, the Palestinians will be strong and reach their hands to peace as well as the Israelies.
Hamas goes years without violating their hudnas and when they break it's usually a splinter group acting outside their ability to police it that starts war. They are primitive theocrats but they aren't stupid.
40 attack tunnels that goes under Israeli cities and villages are not evidence enough for you? Hammas commando leader trained in Iran that admitted that fact is not evidence enough? Maybe the noises of digging and rumbling that my 10 year old niece is hearing for the past year under her home in the Kibutz in the northern border is just a boogie man.
No not really. A conventional fighting force will have a much easier time spreading word than a guerrilla force with multiple factions. That is a fact.
