I guess you are assuming everything that Israel said is true also. Hamas is denying they kidnapped an Israeli soldier. I personally have no reason to just automatically believe either side. Obviously you do. There have been numorous times Israel has lied to our own government, their closest ally. What makes Israel deserving of our trust in every allegation they claim?
It most certainly is, or was. From the Oxford Dictionary: Definition of ceasefire in English: A temporary suspension of fighting, typically one during which peace talks take place; a truce. It says nothing about withdrawing from current positions held by either side in order to be declared a "ceasefire." http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/ceasefire
This isn't going to be solved peacefully. Ultimately one them will need to be forcefully removed or ground into dirt.
Hamas have said they didn't kidnap and just heard about it, then that they did but it was before the ceasefire, whatever. And the NYT piece said that anything published about the soldier has to go through IDF censors. I would be skeptical of any news right now.
Freaking please with your definitions. The Israelis agreed to a ceasefire so they could continue military operations on territory that isn't theirs without opposition. I break into your house, call a ceasefire so I can do what I want without you trying to shoot me. That's a joke. It's typical Israeli behavior, they're used to having a stacked deck in their favor.
Have you well and truly lost your ****ing mind? With all respect due, of course. And all this time I thought you were one of the sane posters in this forum. Boy, was I wrong.
Oh please. Not one person is making smiley faces about Palestinian dead. There is someone smiling away about a captured Israeli soldier which will directly bring about more death.
You have no idea what a ceasefire is apparently. A ceasefire NEVER equals parties retreating. That would be a surrender or a treaty. Ceasefires mean just that. The sides agree not to shoot at each other. Hamas and Israel both agreed to a ceasefire that meant neither side tried to kill the other for 72 hours but Israel would in fact demolish the tunnels inside their controlled lines. Hamas agreed to that so for you to call it a joke of a ceasefire is ridiculous. Turns out Israel was right about the ceasefires all along. Hamas just wants them to make it easier to carry out surprise attacks.
Exactly and everyone who is assuming what transpired is jumping the gun. Until a third party such as the UN confirms anything I'm not taking sides.
I just said why Israel would agree to a ceasefire. Should I quote myself? They're not being magnanimous, they're using it to a military advantage. Do you think everyone is stupid? Jesus. How is this any different from anything else Israel does? They're gangsters. They do whatever they want, kill whoever they want, and any repercussion to that is apparently terrorism.
No one here is enjoying to see people die other than the Hamas supporters in those threads, I have not seen even one here that support Israel right to defend its citizens that was showing joy from the Palestinian suffering. Israel is doing everything in their hands to protect its civilians from the tunnel threats, like we've learned- they have planned to execute a combined terror attack on Israeli cities and villages with 200 comando trained in Iran and Syria to kill hundreds of Israeli civilians, 2 months from now, in Rosh Hashana. As we speak we know that the northern border in Israel is full with tunnels build by Hisbulla, for the next and final war as they say. You guys just don't get it- Hammas sees themselves as the outpost of the Islamic Jihad as much as Israel sees itself as an outpost for the free world. This is their own words that you all refuse to listen to.
NYT says that the ceasefire terms permitted Israel to continue operations on destroying tunnels...and that little detail may not have been understood so well.
Hamas agreed to the ceasefire as well. I don't get your point. Israel agreed to a ceasefire that allowed it to carry out its mission of destroying the tunnels without killing anyone else. Yes, they had a motive to do so. So did Hamas. One side's motives meant doing their work without killing anyone and one side's motives meant pulling off a surprise operation to kill people. Gangsters indeed.
Nope. Israel is honest saying they opened fire in retaliation. To the posters saying that Israel surprised people though, CNN had a reporter on this morning who admitted that he personally heard the robo calls start back up with Israel telling people to stay inside. So they didn't just surprise bomb people. I don't think there was any doubt. John Kerry's statement last night on the ceasefire was very clear that Israel would continue to demolish the tunnels. He specifically addressed that point.
