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Israel Launches Ground Invasion of Gaza

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Air Langhi, Jul 17, 2014.

  1. FranchiseBlade

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    Sadly this isn't the first time Israelis have used kids as human shields. I remember when they forced Palestinian youths at gun points to go building to building where they feared ambush.
     
  2. FranchiseBlade

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    Please list the progressives that actually support Hamas. I believe you are mistaken or lying.
     
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    That's like saying you shouldn't someone who is holding a gun to your head control whether you are his friend or not. It's such a ridiculous statement that I can't tell if it is just mind-numbingly stupid or intentionally disingenuous.

    What part of "the Hamas charter calls for the destruction of Israel and they mean it" do you not understand? What part of "every time Hamas was given room to breathe, all they did was build more terror tunnels, acquire more terror weapons, spread more hate propaganda, take more of their own population hostage"?

    On the contrary, before the war broke out (i.e. when there was relative peace) they formed a "unity government" with Fatah, which means they got more power. But don't let facts get into the way of your little fables.


    No, there isn't.

    They tried. It didn't work. Now Hamas needs to be eradicated. I hope Israel doesn't stop before that happens.
     
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    Criminality according to who? Egypt claimed Gaza in 1948 and nobody blamed them for racism or criminality. Not sure how its racist at all either, considering they're both Arab. I would bet most Gazans would welcome an Egyptian government over Hamas. The Arab World too would be satisfied.

    Russian seized half of the Ukraine, without any international support whatsoever. This is a real solution that will end violence, all you do is call the ones providing solutions "racists" rather than actually any insight, you are being more detrimental than helpful. Its 2014, the world is breaking apart at the seams, global stability is far more important than age old land disputes.

    Land is very overrated anyhow, by 2050, 80% of the entire planet will be living in cities, the need for land is becoming an archaic argument.
     
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    This is a Hamas children's tv show on May 8th 2014

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/57Q8K5TmivM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    You are fighting for these people's cause.
     
  6. trustme

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    And you're fighting for the cause that actually murders children cold blooded.
     
  7. tallanvor

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    that blood is not on Israel's hands. They did not start the war and they do not target civilians. It is not a war of choice for Israel. Their children are being attacked by a group whose whole goal is the genocide of their people (as proven by the clip above).
     
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    They did start the war. They admitted they had no evidence that Hamas killed those teens. Which this whole war has been all about. The blood is on Israel's hand and you're supporting a terrorist state with an army full of thugs.
     
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    So what do you have to say about the content of the video? Also, is anyone here fluent in Arabic and can confirm the subtitles to be accurate. If so, this is absolutly horrible.
     
  10. trustme

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    How many Israeli children dead? How many Palestinians murdered?


    I rest my case.
     
  11. fchowd0311

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    According to your logic, assuming the subtitles are a correct translation, does that mean you support a society that advocates teaching children through children television to commit mass genocide?
     
  12. bigtexxx

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    Thanks to Hamas, the terrorists
     
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    I've said this before but intent is a factor in judging moral culpability. Just because Hamas is incompetent in reaching their goal(extermination of all Israelis) doesn't make them morally superior.
     
  14. trustme

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    Of course I don't. I'm against children being murdered. That's why I am against the actions of Israel and so is most of the human population. I am also agains the attempts of Hamas to hurst Israelis. But look at the current war. Israel attacked Gaza because it accused Hamas of killing the three teens. Which it has no proof of.
     
  15. tallanvor

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    Your case is that because the iron dome works so well that Hamas is not trying to target Israeli civilians? Not a strong case.

    Its very simple. Israel has nuclear weapons. At any time in the past 10-15 years Israel could of wiped Gaza off the face of the earth. So when someone posts some unsubstantiated quote of an ISraeli saying something along the lines of 'Palestinians are subhuman and should be annihilated', it can be shrugged off cause clearly Israel is not trying to wipe out Gaza despite being able to. In fact, Israel calls Palestinian civilians before attacking telling them where they can evacuate to in order to be safe. Exact opposite of a group trying to wipe out as many Palestinians as possible. Hamas does not have the ability to wipe out Israel, but with what weapons they have they try to kill as many jews as possible, regardless of military value. This confirms their charter mission statement to kill all jews.
     
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    No one said Hamas is morally superior. They don't have morals and neither does Israel. They are actually murdering children. Do you support the actions of Israel?
     
  18. trustme

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    What about the current war? Was Israel right in attacking Gaza with no proof that Hamas murdered those teens?
     
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    I think we have a severe disconnect on moral values. To me, indoctrinating children through children programming to commit genocide is more morally reprehensible than a nation state retaliating with excessive force a crime without sufficient evidence.Both are morally reprehensible but they are not equally morally reprehensible.
     
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  20. tallanvor

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    Of course. They had 100 rockets fired at their civilians a day. That's the most obvious reason for war in the history of man. I had alrdy answered your question

     

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