Well I'm sure the Israelis would agree to that truce, why wouldn't they? Although I'm sure they'd prefer working out a truce where the Palestinians stopped being terrorists and causing them reason to operate in Gaza and having to destroy things. Might be asking too much though, once you get that "terrorism is the answer" bug, it's hard to shake it. It would also require the Palestinians to care about their own people and I'm not sure that's a concession they are willing to make either.
Israelis will agree to a truce... and then not abide by it just like every other agreement they have come into terms with.
A straw man is a common type of argument and is an informal fallacy based on the misrepresentation of an opponent's argument. To be successful, a straw man argument requires that the audience be ignorant or uninformed of the original argument. Unfortunately for you, we have the original argument "Well the harsh reality is that no one really cares what they want." Then your straw man "Not one single country recognizes Israel illegal annexation of the occupied territories" Notice how it's almost as if you were responding to a completely different argument. It's that way because you were responding to an argument you were having with a straw man, not me. Glad I could teach you something. Again furthering the straw man argument. No one cares what the Palestinians want, which is the destruction of Israel and the conquest of the land in the region. That's not the same as saying no one cares when people are dying. I know it's tough, but eventually you'll get better at this. Peace would be nice, but Israel is doing pretty well for themselves despite having to kill a bunch of moronic Palestinians every now and again. The Palestinians benefit from peace a lot more than the Israelis do so they probably shouldn't overplay that hand if that's all they have. When there are two equal sides with no clear victor and they are both essentially equally matched, both sides benefiting from peace equally, then those terms could be negotiated. When one side clearly dominates and destroys the other and one side benefits from peace considerably more so than the other, terms are essentially set by the victor. Work on your definitions then. No, it's not, hopefully by the time you've read this far, you'll know that though. Well it WOULD be smart of them to, but that's neither here nor there.
If no one cared, no one would make a statement on Israel's illegal annexation of the occupied territories. No one would make news stories covering the situation. Your statement that "no one cares" is just devoid of fact. Glad I could you teach something. See above. What the Palestinians want is a viable state in the occupied territories, and that is what is covered on the news over and over again. Based on statistics alone (deaths, illegal land seizures, illegal population transfers), Israel wants the destruction of Palestine and to control all the territory. Glad I could teach you something. You clearly do not understand the definition of a negotiation then. Negotiations have nothing to do about the equality of the parties involved. It's a dialogue between multiple parties to reach an understanding. Glad I could teach you something. Or learn about the situation instead of making asinine posts stating that the Palestinians can pretty much create a state in Zone A/B of the West Bank. Glad I could teach you something. You stated they should stop attacking Israel and make a viable state in the West Bank. I stated those in the West Bank have stopped attacking Israel and that a state in the West Bank was not viable for a multitude of reasons. Instead of addressing that point, you essentially said they should feel good Israelis aren't counter-attacking them. What exactly does that have to do with the point that creating a state in the West Bank's Zone A/B is not viable? Or are you simply trying to change the subject from the fact that you didn't know anything regarding the West Bank and just made a completely ignorant statement? Glad I could teach you something. Would you have said the same thing to those illegal immigrants who were flooding Palestine in the 1920s to the 1940s? "Go make a state somewhere else. No one cares about your problems".
Hamas needs to stop shooting missiles. The gazan people have some amount of sympathy and instead of using it to try to get something for their people, Hamas is squandering it. The people of Gaza have to realize Hamas is not good for them, but given the israel is just destroying Gaza the people of gaza will continue to turn to Hamas.
They turned to Hamas when Israel wasn't invading. Israel had left them entirely alone when they voted Hamas into power.
Israel wasn't occupying any Palestinian territories when Hamas barely won the legislative elections? What type of revisionist history do you read? As for leaving them entirely alone when the elections were happening is completely false. How many Palestinian Legislative Council members were arrested and detained for long periods of times without being formally charged with anything? After Hamas won the seats, they started arrested Hamas members in the West Bank who were moderates and wanted Hamas to formally recognize Israel. But that would serve counter to Israel's interests of keeping the conflict going so they can continue building settlements. After all, Hamas was legitimized by the Israeli government in the 70's and 80's to divide support for the PLO.
Take over? What are you talking about? Gaza was where Israel dumped all the Palestinians when they chased them out of their homes. Gaza is a refugee camp. Most of the Palestinians living there were pushed there by Israel. Israel definitely is responsible for the conditions in the Gaza Strip. I am saying Israel should leave the territory they conquered that is not rightfully there's. As you can see in this image below, Israel has been the one taking most of the land. Hard to understand how you think the west bank is a 1/4 of Israel - it's a bunch of tiny little unconnected patches. How do you make a viable state out of that?????
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>SHARE THE TRUTH: Israel accepted all four cease-fire offers, while Hamas rejected them, continuing to fire at Israel. <a href="http://t.co/EQhuz5fkqa" title="http://twitter.com/netanyahu/status/493388116116242433/photo/1">pic.twitter.com/EQhuz5fkqa</a></p>— Benjamin Netanyahu (@netanyahu) <a href="https://twitter.com/netanyahu/status/493388116116242433" data-datetime="2014-07-27T13:31:08+00:00">July 27, 2014</a></blockquote> <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> the BBC actually tweeted this <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Palestinian militant group Hamas declares Gaza ceasefire after Israel ended earlier truce amid rocket fire from Gaza <a href="http://t.co/SszXAi4COt">http://t.co/SszXAi4COt</a></p>— BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking) <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/statuses/493342949468815360">July 27, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
You know which cease fire Israel did not accept? The one that was to last for 10 years and called on them to move back from the actual fertile lands of Gaza and would give the Palestinians some small amount of opportunity to be responsible for their own well being.
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Share the truth, Israel accepted a cease fire offer that allowed their invading force to destroy whatever it wanted in occupied territory. Yeah, we won't blow up your buildings with our tanks and fighter jets but we're going to do whatever else we want on your land and you can't shoot at us while we do it. That's awesome. Typical Israel.
The only thing that Hamas did while there was a "cease fire" for the last years (which Hamas constantly violated, by the way, by shooting rockets into Israel) was to build terror tunnels, try to stock up on weapons and plot more attacks. Whenever they agree to a cease fire, it's only for tactical reasons. It's not because they want peace - it's because they want time so they can stockpile weapons and prepare for more terror and bloodshed. They want 10 years, so they can get a weapons arsenal that would allow them to kill more people.
Muslims are too vain and prideful. It's resulting in their own deaths and other Muslims don't seem to care about it-just pointing out how bad Israel is. Middle east needs to collectively house the Palestinians and end this. It's the only way.
**above should read "prideful regarding this matter". Time to grow up and start pointing fingers with the he or she started it. Its not fair etc. You've got to look long term at what's best for you and your family.
He made the video seem legitimate until he could help himself to take another shot at the A-rabs. The mention of the last inventions by Jews vs Arabs was hilarious. If I knew nothing I would have believed everything he said until he made it obvious he doesn't like one side.
