"The problem with Daryl Morey...that he's been mythologized before he's done anything worth heraldin

Your post was almost intelligent.

 

I appreciate that, Clark.

 

Dallas and Mark Cuban are more player-friendly and would never treat players like Morey does.

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5 or 6 bad moves? Um yea


1) Letting Rick Adelman walk (he had the best winning% of any coach in Rockets history)
2) Hiring a unqualified coach in Kevin Mchale
3) Amnestied Luis Scola and got nothing in return
4) Gave Jeremy Lin that ridiculous contract
5) Traded our best 3pt shooter AB before last years deadline, leaving Eremy Lin as the only back
6) Drafted Royce White
7) Retained Mchale after a disappointing playoff series when there were better options available
8) Mishandled the Parsons situation
9) Went star chasing this offseason when we didn't need it. We needed a few veteran role players. Missed out on his star, and now we're stuck with a group of d-league role players

 

Only a couple of those on that list are as black and white as you make them, quite a few are just your opinion of a bad move. And you left out trading a 1st for Twill. That was terrible.

Also
Rick - .588
McHale - .578

I'm gonna guess by the end of next season McHale is the leader in win% by a Rockets coach. For someone who is so hell bent on results mattering. Hard to argue with winning more than any other coach we have had, right?

 

So basically a bunch of arm chair GM'ing and criticisms with no real substance of what is happening and exactly why certain moves were made.

Not surprising, considering the "caliber" of our fan base.

We have an absolute stud of a GM and are moronic fanbase is too clueless to appreciate it.

 

I'm interested to know which ones are not so black & white to you.\

Adelman>Mchale




Results are results, you're right. Posting Mchale's regular season winning% is pointless because a) his roster is FAR better, and b) even with the better roster, he'll never get us out the 1st round like Adelman did. Adelman did a fantastic job coaching us, but left here unhappy with Daryl Morey like just about everybody else.

 

No, your praise of Morey lacks real substance. The funny thing is outside of here, more ppl agree with my stance on Morey than you. So who's the moron again?

 

Larsv8 kinda shares my thoughts on a lot of your list.

On to results. So now you are saying results should be taken within context? Kind of like a lot of people do when talking about Morey, except for you and a few others.

With Morey it's all results. The situation he inherited, the motivation and rationale behind moves means nothing to you because it's all results.

I bring up coaches with similar win percentages and now context matters. The situation they walked into and the rosters they were given should be considered when judging effectiveness.

Weird how that works.

I also would like to hear more about the future that you can see into. Never get us out of the first round? Come on, that's just your extremely biased opinion.

 

LOL. What context? He's been here since 2006. The situation he inherited? That was 8 years ago. Tmac & Yao are both retired. That excuse doesn't work anymore. I don't wanna here about the "motivation & rationale" behind any of the moves Morey makes. The results have been mediocre thus far

This argument works against you in that matter. Adelman inherited a injury plagued roster and STILL produced immediate results. He exceeded the expectations. How exactly has Morey exceeded expectations? By landing Harden & Howard after 8 years? Aquiring 2 allstars doesn't become a great move until you actually achieve playoff success. For all we know the H&H era could end up being the biggest flop in franchise history. In hindsight, Morey hasn't really put together a contender in 8 years. What other context are we discussing?

 

#TankAge

 

Because the expectations are not that Morey will deliver a championship.

The expectations are that Morey will assemble a roster which is capable of competing for a championship, which he has done twice now.

Your irrelevant measurements of success are unrealistic and childish. 95% of the organizations that ascribe to your "all or nothing" mentality will fail.

Morey is a strength of this organization. To attack that aspect of it is just plain stupid.

 

Because just saying he has been here 8 years is looking at it, like you love to do with Morey, without context.

The beginning of his tenure was focused on building with Yao and McGrady. They quickly broke down and wasnt even able to get much of anything in return for them. It's not his fault the stars he inherited crapped out on him. His first few years were working on a totally different thing that he has been working to in the more recent years.

You can't just say he's been here 8 years, because it's just not that simple. Situations changed that were out of his control. In the last 2 years he's taken us from a team that was looking like Lin, Asik and Parsons as our "big 3" to having 2 star players.

You act as if because in the first year we had our 2 stars we didn't live up to expectations that it should all be scrapped. Read that again. First year with our 2 stars. 1 year.

And saying that you need to look at things in context doesn't hurt my argument. You preach results and then when I offer you results you hide behind context. You know just as well as I do context matters. You want to use it when discussing coaches, but not with Morey. It's stupid.

 

Huh? At what point during Daryl Morey's tenure did he provide a championship caliber roster? Last time I checked, we've only reached the 2nd once under Adelman

 

I'd say the 2008 - 2009 roster with Yao, McGrady, and Artest as the stars, and Scola, Battier, Hayes, Landry, Brooks, Lowry, and Mutumbo as the role-players counts.

Injuries* are what kept that team from playing in the Finals, in my opinion.


*and McGrady quitting on the team for "conditioning" and then elective micro-fracture surgery

 

Bottom line.......

It's been EIGHT YEARS!!!! You're bringing up matters from 06 that are no longer relevant. We've had 2 different coaches and the highest roster turnover since then, and you're still talking about Yao & Tmac? Lol. Name another GM with a eight year grace period like you've given Morey? Lol. Too many apologist for Morey here. The sad part is almost nobody outside of clutchfans feels like you. You give Morey ALL the credit for anything remotely good, but when the results don't pan out it's somehow not his fault (after 8 years). Just remember ANY other GM would be held accountable after 8 years. After awhile the excuses fall on deaf ears

 

Name another GM who has rebuilt a team without tanking and didn't have a star at the beginning of the rebuilding process.

 

lol. BS.

You have become the equivalent of the people claiming all Lin fans are all a bunch of crazy idiots, just change Lin to Morey.

I have never said everything good was because of him and that everything bad was just bad luck. And from what I read here, most people on Moreys side are pretty much in line with my take.

My stance from the beginning is that I see the logic in the moves he makes, even when they don't deliver the desired results. I recognize that he has made some mistakes. I pointed one out that you missed on your list about the TWill trade and believe me that's not the only mistake I give him. I notice that he generally quickly does what he can to rectify the mistakes he does make. I also recognize he had some circumstances that would set ANY GM back a few if not more years. I recognize that everything isn't as cut and dry as the bottom line results.

Mainly I recognize there is no perfect GM. Mistakes will be made, luck will play a large role in success and just because we don't reach the desired goal doesn't mean the approach was wrong.

 

Morey might have a mild form of Asperger Syndrome, like Alan Turing (unconfirmed).

 

I think you are reading everything too negatively.