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Targets for our TPE, MLE and BAE

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by mrjohn, Jul 16, 2014.

  1. basketballholic

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    Absolutely NO to Mayo.
     
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    The reason why the OP advocated flipping the TE for a player like Chandler is because it gives us more flexibility in taking in larger contracts. Since the TE can't be combined with a player, to make a competitive offer for a Rondo (or anyone with a salary greater than $8.3 million), we have to trade pretty much all of our bench.

    Once we get Chandler, we can combine his salary with other pieces (NG deals of Gee and Hopson, Canaan, DMO, etc.) to match a 3rd star's salary. Although Boston would not be very interested in Chandler the player, his contract is easy enough to swallow ($2 million guaranteed next year) and can be combined with real assets such as Capela, NO 1st round pick, Canaan, Jones, DMO, Johnson, etc. In addition, a large deal like this would allow the Rockets to take on a bad contract as well (like a Wallace or Green). Near the trade deadline, if it is clear that Rondo is uninterested in returning to Boston, the combination of young players, picks, and offloading bad deals may be appealing to Ainge and co.

    There is definitely some element of speculation by Morey if this indeed is his plan. At the very least, Chandler would be a solid addition to our rotation and fills areas of weakness for our roster. The key is that acquiring a contract gives the Rockets the ability to craft larger deals with any team who is looking to trade away a star player.
     
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  3. KTC

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    Pretty sure that'd be the NBA equivalent of "Crossing the Streams".

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    Ha ha ha - thanks for the morning laugh.
     
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    Thanks to JuanValdez and justtxyank for their valuable and informative posts. Much appreciated.
     
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    We need Jeremy Lin to do one of theos "Rockets Science" things or whatever they called it.
     
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    How has Tayshaun been these last few years
    I have not been watching him?

    Rocket River
     
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    I would love to get Wilson Chandler. He was the center piece to the Melo deal along with Galo. He could be a very valuable member to the bench or a good piece in a trade.
     
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    In and out of Memphis lineup. They thought high enough of him to play him instead of James Johnson. However, no one seems too concerned with him this offseason. I'd definitely take him for the vet min, but not at the cost of Marion
     
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    I wouldn't mind it at all. Lately it seems that teams have been signing guys to deals like that as an extra carrot to get them to commit and also it gives the team flexibility for the next year.
     
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    I can appreciate that. The reason I objected is that after we gave up our two best trade chips -- Parsons and Asik -- for moving up 10 spaces in the 2015 draft and some cap flexibility, I don't think we have a very compelling offer. Sure, by the trade deadline, there might be a team that needs to offload somebody, and if that happens Morey will be prepared for that event. I'm not even disputing the logic or wisdom of it, but perhaps object to the confidence that the gambit will bear fruit. If you trade for a guy like Chandler, the scenario of keeping him until the end of his contract better be palatable, because all Morey can offer is cap relief and some mediocre assets (unless DMo or someone blows up between now and the trade deadline).
     
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    Is it crazy that I actually would like J.R. Smith to bring some scoring off the bench?
     
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    I would argue that for a team like Boston, a high pick in 2015 is more valuable than Asik, who is on an expiring contract and unlikely to re-sign. Also, paying Wilson Chandler $8.7 million ($6.7 this year + $2 million guaranteed next year) is better than paying Lin $15 million. Losing our 2015 pick was rough, an unnecessary loss of an asset, but I do still feel that we can come up with a competitive offer for a player like Rondo or Dragic.

    We both agree that the exchange of a TPE to Chandler in order to JUST facilitate a future trade is a bit speculative and may backfire on us. But looking at Chandler's production, he can offer value to this team as both a trade asset and a rotational player.
     
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    People are proposing realistic targets for these exceptions, but it is not realistic to expect Morey to work on such realistic targets right now. Morey is most likely working on unrealistic targets first and will only move on to realistic targets after he first succeed or fail to land an unrealistic target.

    Like how the Parsons decision depended upon the Bosh situation, what Morey does with the role player slots also depends on whether he somehow chased down a star first.
     
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    This is the best explination for what is going on right now. No matter how small your shot is, you can't move on from guys like Kevin Love until they are absolutely off the table.
     
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    Thank you. This is exactly what I am saying Daryl Morey will end up doing.

    I doubt anyone tops this offer for Rajon Rondo:

    New Orleans' first round pick
    Clint Capela
    Isaiah Canaan or Nick Johnson
    Donatas Motiejunas
    Wilson Chandler's or Tayshaun Prince's or Landry Fields' expiring contract
    Nonguaranteed contracts of Alonzo Gee, Josh Powell, Scotty Hopson
     
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    And when you finally move on you end up with a D-League PF rotation of Jones and DMo.
     
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    That is way too much for Rondo. PG is not a major concern for us. We need an all round 4. A healthy Al Horford would be very good on the Rockets.

    I think Atlanta will try to move him, if he gets injured again. I would be wary of taking a gamble on him.
     
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    When you "move on" you first upgrade your PG slot, which will come much cheaper than Love would.

    Once Love is traded, you'll see how many options we have at PG. All of the following are likely to be impacted by a Love trade:

    1) Rondo - Boston missed on Love, and they drafted his replacement in Smart.
    2) Rubio - Minnesota may want to rebuild with Wiggins, and Rubio is asking for a max contract.
    3) Ty Lawson - Denver has an "interesting offer" for Love, even knowing he may not resign. If they miss, there's potential they go into rebuilding mode.
    4) Dragic - Suns were interested in trading for Love.
    5) Bledsoe - Suns were interested in trading for Love.


    No doubt, Morey will go after ALL of these guys to pit their offers against one another. Once he's settled on one he likes, then we spend the next half season trying to build value for a trade to upgrade our PF slot.
     
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