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Israel Launches Ground Invasion of Gaza

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Air Langhi, Jul 17, 2014.

  1. tallanvor

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    because they shoot rockets into Israel. don't shoot rockets into Israel and nobody dies. very simple.
     
  2. pirc1

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    Well, they should move either Israelis or Palestinians out of there. It is all England's fault, like 90% of the world conflicts today.
     
  3. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Someone should build Hamas a shiny new military base with barracks, ammunition storage, mess hall, the works. That way they wouldn't have to store their rockets and house their soldiers in close proximity to schools and hospitals. That should really cut down on civilian casualties.
     
  4. Rocket River

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    Solution presented. . . MOVE THEM TO ENGLAND!

    Rocket River
     
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    They should also allow Gazan citizens transport out, and not impose an economic blockade that makes them some of the poorest people on Earth so that Gaza isn't the most densely populated area in the world.

    Moral warfare: when you impose an open-air prison, then drop a small warning bomb before you drop the real bomb (sometimes at like 3-minute intervals).

    lol

    "EVACUATE THE CIVILIANS OF GAZA---TO ANOTHER STRIP OF DENSELY POPULATED GAZA! which we'll bomb tomorrow."
     
  6. AroundTheWorld

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    Why would "some of the poorest people on earth" have money to buy thousands of rockets?
     
  7. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    They don't. Everyone in Gaza isn't a terrorist. There is a lot of collateral damage. You are so blinded by hate of Muslims you can't see that Muslims are people too.
     
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  8. AroundTheWorld

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    What do the different sentences have to do with each other? My question was simple. Why is money spent on rockets rather than on food and education?

    Nope.
     
  9. Northside Storm

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    because up until recently, their ADMINISTRATION were funded by people who despised Israel, including butcher regimes, but now that funding's cut because Hamas couldn't stomach Assad killing his own people.

    which means it's perfect timing to give those same people a reason to give more!

    The average Gazan citizen is poor as f**k, because of Hamas, but also largely because of Israel.

    of course, the crude rockets Hamas is displaying is like 1/10th of what Israel, an actual monied entity can deploy---which is why, in case you haven't noticed, every time one of these things happen, Palestinian Arab civilians die in droves.
     
  10. FranchiseBlade

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    Here's something interesting. The 10 year cease fire was never agreed upon by Israel so Hamas has no requirement or agreement to stop their rocket firing.

    Do you understand that a cease fire is a MUTUALLY AGREED upon deal? It doesn't happen unilaterally.
     
  11. AroundTheWorld

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    The short ones that were agreed in the last week were all broken by Hamas immediately.
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    As far as I know the ones from last week were accepted by Israel and denounced and never accepted by Hamas. They called it something like kneeling and submission. If you are talking about a different ceasefire agreement than the one put forward by the Egyptians let me know.
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/14/egypt-calls-for-israel-hamas-ceasefire

    The ten-year proposal was different than other proposals for a couple of reasons. The length of it is one major proposal, but also it gives Palestinians access to the most fertile areas of Gaza and would allow them to actually fish and use the resources of the land which they have been forbidden to do despite supposedly being able to govern Gaza. It would actually allow them to have humanitarian aid and water shipped in and increase the movement allowed to Palestinians.

    It is something new and different than what has been tried before. If it doesn't work then both sides can back to invading and killing each other easy enough. But why not try it instead of doing the exact same things which have been tried time and time again with no success?
     
  13. geeimsobored

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    Gotta say, this invasion seems like such a PR disaster for Israel. Put aside whether this is justified or not. Frankly, it just looks bad. Seeing an incredibly poor stretch of land get thrown into chaos by invading troops never looks good on tv, regardless of its justification.

    The theatrics of this alone make this invasion a bad idea. (let alone the actual loss of lives and property)

    Israel's right wing is slowly falling prey to a hubris that is dangerous. Israel's military superiority is clear and overwhelming but there is a PR component to war that you need to win in order to get international legitimacy. And they're failing at that part of this.

    Hamas has nothing to lose. They aren't even popular in Gaza and now Israel is turning them into a victim and giving them huge support at home. I dont even know the point of this invasion. Hamas sucked at governing and the people hated them for it. That's why they agreed to a unity government so they could stop being blamed for all of Gaza's problems.

    Instead, Israel invades Gaza and somehow turns freaking Hamas into a sympathetic figure. I can't see any positives for Israel from this invasion. Israel doesn't even want Gaza so there are no territorial gains to be had. This is just aimless war-making because a few delusional right wing members of the governing coalition have an itch for war and vengeance. Probably not the smartest way to go about policymaking.
     
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  15. AroundTheWorld

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    Nobody to blame for that than the Hamas terrorists.
     
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    Same s**t different war

    Its always been like this, Jews are antagonized in whatever they do.
     
  17. hoopster325

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    I stand with the IDF

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  18. FranchiseBlade

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    Right, except that isn't accurate to then accuse them of breaking a cease fire to which they never agreed.

    And if we are going to blame a side for not accepting a cease fire, then Israel must take the blame for not agreeing to the 10 year cease fire.
     
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    http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/my-letter-of-apology-to-the-world-media/

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    Please allow me to apologise on behalf of all the citizens of the State of Israel. I humbly apologise to you and your readers and to the world for our leaders defending our right to live. Here in Israel, we consider living a basic human right.

    The indignation of journalists, commentators and your readership has prompted them to spew forth some of the most vile invective we have seen other than that of Der Sturmer circa 1940’s and the letters and op-eds posted in your publication have educated me in a new level of hatred.

    I apologise that it is left up to our army to make sure that the citizens of Gaza are evacuated from dangerous zones safely through pamphlets, text messages and roof knocking. I guess my text message and pamphlet were lost due to Hamas being on strike. Literally.

    I apologise that we have not racked up those large numbers of Israeli casualties you were hoping for. I apologise for a government who values my life and those of my fellow citizens so much they do anything in their power to protect it. Whatever internal squabbles we may have or policies we agree or don’t agree on, life is valuable. I am sorry for our defense forces, made up of representatives of all sectors of Israeli society, who both prepare us and defend us with their lives.

    I am sorry for our Iron Dome batteries that intercept the rockets aiming for our death and destruction. For those of you calling Israel an Apartheid state, Iron Dome makes no distinction between Jew, Christian or Arab. We are all targets.

    I apologise that our government has made sure that we are equipped with bomb shelters and know how much time we need to take cover. I am sorry that Hamas prefer to build weapons smuggling tunnels instead of protecting their citizens but the “death industry” (their words not mine – google it yourself) has proven more lucrative than saving lives.

    Most of all, I am sorry that this upsets you so much that in countries across the world you choose to take out your frustration on members of the Jewish community, attacking people physically, in the media and in barely disguised hateful press releases.

    Please accept my humble apologies for any inconvenience we may have caused you.

    Rolene Marks
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    Israel
     

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