[Chron] Andre Johnson no longer wants to be a Texan

Saw AJ Saturday night at an establishment I frequent. It was crowded, and there was a wait for a table. He came in, demanded a table, and when he was told he had to wait like everyone else, he threw a fit and had to be escorted out. I don't know what's happening to this guy. How do you go from such a humble, laid back and down to earth person to this?

 

This. Take less drugs from the team doctor, let those accrued injuries heal up and find an agent who can sell workouts for a bigger contract.

He signed that contract in good faith. If the team doesn't feel like honoring the spirit of the signing, then he should just honor the letter of the contract.

Agree, fans can turn on players quickly. It was easier for fans to root for players in contract disputes 10-20 years ago, but now everyone thinks they're some fantasy league armchair gm who thinks "contract value" is any indicator of how much a fan should root for their guy.

For all the BS about loyalty, that short term memory really guts that angle.

 

Right, nobody is certain about what they're doing next year. Fair enough.

Andre is asking for security. He wants to win OR be a part of the team's future plans and be compensated for it as scheduled. He wants to be guaranteed a spot. If management came out and said, "hey Andre, we're not increasing your salary, but we'll agree to never cut you and let you earn 100% of your current contract as constructed." he almost surely takes the deal.

Right now he doesn't want to give a year of his football career to a franchise with a bleak outlook only to become a casualty down the road.

We're not committing to him, he's not committing to us. Cant blame either side.

 

I would take less drugs from the team doctor, let those accrued injuries heal up and find an agent who can sell workouts for a bigger contract.

Agree, fans can turn on players quickly. It was easier for fans to root for players in contract disputes 10-20 years ago, but now everyone thinks they're some fantasy league armchair gm who thinks "contract value" is any indicator of how much a fan should root for their guy.

For all the BS about player loyalty, that short term memory really guts that angle.

 

It's not your place to tell anyone else when to quit and stop doing what they love or make money from. He was a play away from making the Superbowl with Minnesota a few years later.

So you hated a guy for things completely out of control and for being bad (turning the ball over).

These are perfect examples of why athletes shouldn't get their value from fans. They will dislike you for a stupidest things and are, by nature, selfish - it's simply about what value you provide for them. Any athlete that gets value from this is headed for failure.

 

Treasures?

 

Yup, saw it all go down from my private table next to Harden & DMo.

 

Harden & DMo were both in Vegas Saturday night.

 

Never said I was in Houston.....

 

Yo, you live out there too? You know Kwame? I'm in the industry down in Houston now and had girls go up there to work at the big 2, plus Treasures too.

 

Okay, but Andre WAS in Houston on Saturday, he was at the Gatsby off of Washington Ave so.....maybe stop lying.

 

Correction, that was Friday, but he was in town all weekend long doing events.

 

Never said I wasn't in Houston....it would make sense if his event on Saturday was on Fountain View. I saw him at the Dave & Busters at Fountain View & Richmond.

 

Ok, makes sense, and i may be wrong if this happened let me know. But what started all this? did the texans FO come out after the draft and say "hey andre we arent paying you more this year and we are cutting you next year." ?

I am just saying I think this whole thing started as Andre whining about not winning and not getting money whenever he asks, then his uncle (or fans on sites like this) put it in his head that we were gonna cut him next year and now he is using that as an out for being a baby about losing.. IMO. I just never heard anyone mentioning anything about cutting him next year until he started holding out.

It wasnt that he changed teams, he said he was retiring, then lost, then came back.. all in all i didnt think he received that much hate, i never hated him i was just offering up a possible small reason as to why there might be hate there but i think the other ppl you mentioned felt more hate. Favre had too much of a positive legacy to have hate. And he was a legacy franchise qb that was supposed to retire with his team that loved him all those years... but thats beside the point.

As for Lin, I dont know why there is so much hate, personally i never really cared either way, but he didnt live up to his Linsanity, we paid him way too much, and yes he was terrible. I mean along with your theory we should just outright love and adore every player that ever graces our teams, but if they play terribly, hurt the team, and cost an arm and a leg, i can see why ppl hate them. And andre doesnt fit this build, he is closer to the favre aspect.. a franchise legacy player who is acting WAY WORSE than Favre ever did.

All these fans that flip flop on players immediately can be pretty bad and wrong at times, but the other fans who act all high and mighty and "know how the player feels" and look down on anyone that gets mad at the situation are worse. I dont feel bad for andre making 10 mil instead of 11 mil... and i dont care about the drama, I care about my team doing the best that it can, and if a player wants to hurt those chances then i choose the team over them. but you can go coddle them and their millions after they get their way.

 

And that's my point - you're loyal to your team, not its players. That's what fans do - there's nothing wrong with that. But that's also why players shouldn't get their value from what fans think of them. It's very fickle - the minute the player does anything that doesn't benefit the fan, the fan will turn on him.

I don't particularly care about AJ or how this all plays out for him either. But I fully understand why he's doing what he's doing - he's taking care of what he feels are his best interests. The team is doing the same. I don't begrudge either side for that.

 

lol wut? you said you saw him Saturday Night, Andre was supposedly in Houston on Saturday. somebody mentioned that harden and dmo were in Vegas, you said you never said you were in Houston. same person mentioned but Andre was in Houston, you said you never said you were not in Houston.

If you never said you were in Houston and not in Houston, where the hell were you? You saw something go down with Andre on a Saturday, who was in Houston....but you were next to a table with Harden and Dmo, who were in Vegas.

Hmmm

 

Wow, let's get this straight....I was never at a table near Harden & DMo.....it was a JOKE, I thought you guys would get it since I said "my private table" and picked, what I thought was, an interesting combination. I was at Dave & Busters Saturday night when he came in with some friends, whined about having to wait for a table, and was escorted out by an officer.

 

I agree with that... in the beginning. But once this started to drag on, it started to feel like texans org remained business and dre started to get childish. He lost a lot of respect from me (granted i understand the player should not get his value or respect from the fan) when he came and said "i will come back if you give me the million i lost for skipping out"

That right there is not looking out for his best interests other than to "save face" from looking like an idiot that lost his argument. and at that point he is just hurting the team because he was embarassed, not because he wanted to look out for his business interests. and i dont fully fault AJ, seriously, the guy's uncle has got to go.

 

The more this drags on the more Andre is looking like an ass. I am sure he knows if he gets cut or traded his money is going to go out the window, because there isn't a team in this league willing to pay a 34yr old WR the money his current deal is and I don't blame the Texans for standing hard on this issue. They have doled out so many bad deals that they feel like he should honor his deal since they renegotiated his deal at least twice already.