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Daryl sang the blues

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by basso, Jul 14, 2014.

  1. basso

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    doesn't matter where you come from, it matters where you go.
    no one gets remembered, for the things they didn't do

    • In ~40 years as a Rockets fan, I don't ever recall an off season period like the past 5 days
    • even the madness around getting Yao, or McGrady, or the Dwightmare somehow pale in comparison
    • after a 54 win season, the rockets have shed (dumped) 3 of their top 7 rotation players
    • all three of whom were starters just a little over a year ago.
    • Asik needed to go, and the Pels' pick, plus Ariza and related assets are a reasonable exchange
    • Lin will be missed
    • but giving up a first round pick to cleanse the GARM is absolutely worth it
    • He had his limitations, but he played his ass off for us
    • but neither that ass, nor the ass of Parsons, is worth $15M/year
    • there's no way to spin it, the loss of Parsons is a debacle of the first order
    • in addition to his elite (if not Max) basketball skills, he brought a moxie to this team that's not readily apparent elsewhere
    • yes, he failed on defense at the end of Game 6
    • but it was his put-back that put the Rockets ahead .9 seconds earlier
    • Ariza is a better defensive player, but we could have had both
    • and a 2-3 rotation of Harden, Parsons & Ariza
    • I don't fault Parsons for taking the money
    • but I do fault him for not waiting
    • and I fault the Rockets for putting him in that position
    • I'm torn on the "asset" arguement
    • if players are just going to focus on the $$$
    • Melo, Bosch, Parsons
    • then management has every incentive to treat them as assets to be maximized
    • but as fans, we're deprived of watching a team grow and gel together
    • how many promising young players have the rockets traded away under Morey?
    • players the fans had grown to love, and to love watching
    • players who have gone on to success elsewhere
    • of our prospective starting five, only one was drafted by the Rockets
    • it's Dwight's prime, and our window is narrow
    • we've taken a (temporary) step back
    • at what cost to team chemistry?
    • there are some exciting young players in this years class
    • Nick Johnson is surely a piece, and will find a place in the rotation eventually
    • and Morey will work his magic with the various exceptions garnered from the Asik trade

    there's better times a comin', better times ahead
    no one gets remembered (Daryl Morey), so don't rest too long in bed.

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  2. shastarocket

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    Bingo

    Dan Fegan is just as complicit
     
  3. mogrod

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    You can't have it both ways. Someone else over-payed for a role player which is what the Rockets lost... a ROLE PLAYER. Not knocking Parsons, he is a nice player with a good story coming from nowhere as a 2nd-rounder. He was starter, and a nice fit next to the core. But a debacle to lose him? Come on. He hit his ceiling as a player and was nowhere near a max guy. And they got a player who is roughly the same at almost half the price. And besides, it's nice now not having to look at a crappy player model NBA2K makes every year on MY team. lol

    They can easily replace Lin. Just find a steady veteran to backup Beverley. Asik is the only one that will be missed only because he is a good center. But, even he barely played last season.

    The Rockets will be fine. All this blow back from the fans reminds me of how irate everyone was after the plans of Pau and Nene fell through and look how that worked out. Morey and the organization buckled up, put their hard hats on and came out with something even much, MUCH better.
     
  4. basso

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    a debacle to lose a key piece, when it was unnecessary to do so. i would not have matched, but, in retrospect, it was a huge mistake to make him a RFA.
     
  5. shastarocket

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    I think folks are afraid of Dwight Howard. We have seen what Fegan is capable of and we literally have two seasons to prove our worth. If we have become worse in 2014-15 and are banking on "positioning" ourselves, we could very well lose Dwight
     
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    Now I feel so good about myself.

    At the beginning of last season, I said Parson will be gone because of the defensive issue of Harden.

    I still believe the main reason that Rox signed Ariza instead of matching Parson's contract is because of defense. You can't afford playing both Parsons and Harden at the same time.

    I am so good.
     
  7. basso

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    we very well may, but I'm less concerned with losing him in in two years, than in making the most of his next two years here- a period when his skills should be at their peak.

    and this is why I understand why Morey took a shot at Carmelo and Bosh, and he nearly pulled it off. but in hindsight, it was the wrong strategy. It still makes sense to trade Lin & Asik. Lin is easily replaced, and Asik's contributions are as well- remember that even with him, Aldridge ate us alive.

    and Ariza is exactly what we needed to add- a "3&D" wing. but as a complement to Parsons, not as his replacement. and we'll still need a big to play behind Dwight, and possibly another 4. Bosh could have filled both those roles.
     
  8. <3myrockets

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    I very much agree with the players chasing money<---> asset maximization. A lot of players say they want to win, but in the end money talks. For us fans, it's hard to really pick a side between players and owners. One side is trying to maintain profit/build chip teams while the other is securing their future for their relatively short careers.

    I'm still on board with the Ariza signing at the cost of chemistry simply because we maintain flexibility. I hope we never pay a role player more than our franchise players
     
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    I'm not really trippin off losing Parsons. I'm sorry he's a solid role player, and great locker room guy. But the REAL reason ppl are going crazy over losing him is because he's white. Seriously. When you have a young, handsome, white player as the face of your franchise it helps market your team. It's a dream come true for a NBA owner. This is why Cuban would NEVER trade Dirk. Me personally, I could care less. IMO Ariza is a better basketball fit for this team. Basketballwise, it makes sense for the Rockets. Morey just needs to make more basketball moves like this, instead of "marketability" moves (like Jeremy Lin or overpaying Parsons). Next up, a backup PG & Center
     
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    And had Morey NOT swung for the fences the last few years fans would be pissed claiming the Rockets don't gamble enough, not try to bring in star players or care about trying to win a championship. But he DID swing for the fences, made moves to set the organization up to be in the position to go after a star player and GOT Harden. Then positioned the team to go after another and GOT Howard. Again, you can't have it both ways... understand why he went after them and, because it happened to not work out, THEN say it was wrong. You have to make risky moves in order to get STAR players on your team to be a championship contender. You can't hit a game-winning 3-run homer by bunting. It WAS the right move to go try and get a third star... no matter what.

    And how would parsons and Ariza play together? As Morey stated in his interview this morning, Ariza is the perfect wing defender NEXT TO Harden. That's pretty crazy to pay $20+ million for two guys at the same position. How does that make you a championship contender? Especially when one of said players' contract is virtually unmovable, how does hamstringing your team financially like that make it more viable to get that third star player?
     
  11. basso

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    it doesn't, and I agree on not matching (unless we'd landed Bosh.) but it wasn't necessary to make Parsons a RFA to chase Bosh. i wouldn't have gone after Melo- i don't think he's the right fit.

    AND- having connected on Harden and Dwight, there were safer moves to be made to get over the hump.

    all of this is hindsight- we gambled, and almost pulled it off. and now Morey's got work to do, and some chips to still play. i get it.

    but it's still a bittersweet week.
     
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    the face of our franchise was, and is a black dude, with a massive beard. not sure i'd call him handsome, but what do I know?
     
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    "The Downfall of Morey"
     
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    hardly. we (he) may have lost this round, but he went out punching.

    but it's not the last round, and you can be sure he has an attack plan.
     
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    What are the chances that this "Best Cure For NAIL FUNGUS" ad will quit popping up. It's making me want to stop coming to clutchfans. Disgusting ad.
     
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    It was just a completely unneccesary risk that I wish Morey would not have taken. A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush. I know Morey said you don't become a champion by paying guys like Parsons max money and he is right, but you also can't let those bargains go when you have them locked up. It was painfully obvious Parsons was going for big bucks when he signed with Fegan. I just don't know what Morey was thinking when he misjudged the market so bad. I wish one of the radio guys would have asked him about it.
     
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    And if I know Morey, not only will he find a way to recover from this bad start...he will make Dallas pay in the long run. Morey will troll the Mavs for the rest of his Houston Rockets career. ish got personal this weekend.
     
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    Uhmmm.... them ads come up based on what you click on and search for....
     
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    They aren't doing a very good job then cause they are trying to sell me youth basketball lessons and some crap about balancing my budget.
     

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