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Mavs sign Chandler Parsons to 3-year, $46M offer sheet

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Jul 9, 2014.

  1. vstexas09

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    ^hopefully deng signs with miami soon
     
  2. zeeshan2

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    24 hours to go; hope Morey uses a lot of lube when he decide to eff the Mavs at the last minute
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>You know the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rockets?src=hash">#Rockets</a> are sitting back watching the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Mavs?src=hash">#Mavs</a> squirm. And they may just match the Parsons offer sheet out of spite.</p>&mdash; Dwain Price (@DwainPrice) <a href="https://twitter.com/DwainPrice/statuses/488182323750256641">July 13, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  4. arabrocket

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    ACTUALLy parson is a better fit for them specially for sf position.
     
  5. benchmoochie

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    Bledsoe is a restricted FA . that doesn't work in the timeframe.
     
  6. MadMax

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    That's a damn small team with Felton/Ellis/Stephenson. 1-3 caps out at 6'5".
     
  7. conquistador#11

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    been posting this one for three straight off seasons. wow time goes by fast
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  8. Spacemoth

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    The national media, and particularly Dallas fans, have taken this stance that we will match even though it hurts us, just to hurt them even more. No one on Clutchfans has brought up this perspective to my knowledge, and I didn't think about it until they said it either. There are substantial and undeniable reasons we should match Parsons irrespective of whatever Dallas takes out of it.

    First they were saying we would wait until the last second to match because we hate them. This makes no sense because the Rockets have all this cap space that Chris Bosh didn't take, that will disappear once we match Parsons. We have every incentive to wait on matching in that case, so that we can spend as much of this cap space as possible. It has nothing to do with them at all.

    Now they are saying we just want to hoard SF's to keep Dallas from getting any, as if we would hamper our own team just to get back at them. Whatever. We have posted many times here about how Parsons and Harden were among the leaders in the league in minutes played. Parsons in particular led the league in miles run as tracked by the video cameras. This team sorely needed a rotational quality wing to spell their minutes and provide elite level defense against the top players in the league, a ridiculous proportion of whom are now SF's. For that reason, SF has become one of the highest paid positions in the NBA, as well it should be. Again, nothing to do with Dallas.

    Dallas truly has an inferiority complex when it comes to Houston. From what I've seen, we just, don't care about them. Our rivals are San Antonio, the Lakers, and yes still at #1, the Jazz. Dallas can win an NBA championship and still lower themselves down to try and bite at our heels.

    Dear Dallas, we got our own thing goin'. You do you, and we'll do us, and if that's not good enough for you then go see a shrink or something on your own dime. If we match Parsons, it's because we actually want him ok?
     
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  9. DirtyDizzil

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    True dat Spacemoth
     
  10. MadMax

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    I agree with everything you just said...

    and yet I'm still glad that a side effect of us needing to wait means the Mavs are on the sidelines and Cuban done been bit in the ass.
     
  11. Remii

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    Darnit...

    And now I see the Dragic rumors so Phoenix must like Bledsoe better.
     
  12. Houston_Rockets

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    Still don´t understand why people want us to match Parsons.

    Facts: -Parsons at 15M per is an albatross contract
    - Ariza is very comparable player to Parsons (doesn´t matter who is slightly better)

    People say that if we don´t match that means Les is cheap and he is not willing to go above and beyond for a championship team, and the other point is that you match Parsons regardless because you can and you don´t want to lose him for nothing.

    Listen, Parson at 15M is an untradable contract. That means this dude will be with us, wasting 15M of our cap for 3 years. Now you will tell me that it is worth because he is solid, and it doesn´t matter because we will not be able to upgrade going forward.

    But I am sorry, that is a lie. If all your guys on the team are tradale, that means that opportunities will come to upgrade. I mean that is the reason Morey is a great GM in this trade front. This guy knows assets, and he goes out there and works the phone hard.

    It would make sense for us to resign Parsons if we believed that we had enough for a championship, or we could trade him after if needed. I don´t think we have enough for a championship, and I think we will have to trade for bigger upgrades, and that is possible with Ariza and assets we have. It is not possible with contracts like Lin or Parsons without giving away picks or great cheap guys.
     
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    If the Bulls let Scottie Pippen walk after 3 years just to hope to get Karl Malone at some point, they never would have won 6 rings.
     
  14. PolarBear

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    It's a bad, self-inflicted situation caused by Morey's HUGE error to decline Parson's option year at $965K for this season. I agree that Parsons would have LESS trade value after being signed to a $15.3M/year contract (with a 15% trade kicker on top of that) than he does now. Morey has painted himself into a corner with two bad choices:

    1) Match Parsons, and have zero cap flexibility and no way to trade Parson for the next 3 seasons.

    2) Let him walk, and get no compensation for an excellent player, and have to explain to your owner why you made such a bad decision (declining his player option) in the first place.

    There is no way to spin Parson's contact situation into something good for the Rockets, only to try to make the best of a bad and unavoidable situation.
     
  15. Spacemoth

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    Please refer to Carl Herrerra's thread on cap implications of not matching Parsons. The point was that we are pretty much cash-strapped either way, precluding us from threatening to give out a max contract next year regardless of whether or not Parsons is matched. This is even more true now that we have signed Ariza, who if the cap rises as expected the next two years will be an absolute bargain in his last year even if his level of play declines.

    So, no, declining the Chandler Parsons contract will not give us more cap flexibility. Yes it is probably an untradeable contract. No, Parsons and Ariza are not comparable. Parsons runs this offense more than any other piece on the team. He is no longer a good defender 1 on 1 but still keeps the team defense intact via communication and his above-average rotational ability. He played the most minutes on our team last year, and without him we looked worse than we did without Harden or Howard. He is the definition of team glue. We can't afford to lose him if we're serious about maximizing the ability of this incarnation of the Rockets. He is not worth 15 million to the Mavs; they're just taking crazy pills. But to the Rockets, he may well be worth that much.
     
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  16. meh

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    The Rockets aren't going to have cap flexibility regardless of how much they pay Parsons.

    $8mil? No flexibility
    $12mil? No flexibility
    $15mil? No flexibility

    The amount of fans who wants to save Les Alexander money(when he's already making millions on the Rocket each year as one of the most profitable teams), is astonishing.

    Les ain't gonna go broke by paying Parsons a bit extra.
     
  17. ROXTXIA

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    "Cap flexibility?"

    Elite free agents keep jerking us around, and signing with EC teams is a clearer path through the playoffs (as of now) than in the WC; so are we just giving up on the next two seasons anyway, hoping for a shot at Kevin Durant, when he would just as (or more) likely sign with the Wizards (hometown)?

    So, just who are we saving our money for in these next couple of years?

    And believe this, Parsons' new contract can be traded. Morey always finds a way.
     
  18. dje243

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    Meh I love seeing the mavs suffer. But granted I've been living in Dallas for a while so my perspective is different.
     
  19. Dubious

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    We need all the good players we CAN get. At least we control the CP situation.
    But, I'd go sign Deng too just to spite Dallas if I could.
    All your SF belong us!
     
  20. LikeMike

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    Like others have said: we won't have max money for the next 3 years with Arizas contract. So that is out of the question anyways.

    By not matching Parsons contract we could free up about 10 million. By matching Parsons we could end up with 2 TE worth 8.5 million each, the MLE and the bi annual exception. That would actually give us more tools to build our team this year. Plus we'd already have elite depth at the 2 and 3.

    The only bad thing is, it would put us closer to the tax apron. Signing another big contract would mean we go over the tax apron - so Les would have to pay taxes and we'd loose priviliges like the MLE (again this doesn't happen until we sign another big contract).

    So the only reason you might want to not match him would be, because you don't believe Parsons and another big contract guy would be enough to win a championship (and remember, we can always add guys for the vet minimum).

    And Parsons contract is only for 3 years. It's not like we are betting our future on him. I haven't seen one logical explanation of why we shouldn't match yet. With the kind of contracts going out now and the cap supposedly going up (so we might not even go over the apron), his contract doesn't look half as bad as you think.
     

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