I do not want that pos. also, I'm kind of not sure if we should match parsons. If he can get pau gasol now then maybe we don't need parsons. Just throwing other names out there: Greg Monroe, lance Stephenson, Gordon Hayward, Rudy gay, lol deng, Aliza, ... I kind of like Cuban eating parsons contract. I guess he has money to burn so let him burn it.
True, which is why I highlighted the use of the TPEs. If we can get better players through the TPE, then we obviously should. But like I said, it won't all be for lost if we aren't able to sign anyone to fill out the roster in the next 2 days.
Actually, I thought about it some more and if we want to keep Nick Johnson we'd probably have to renounce or exceptions and such. Can someone vouch for me here? I would really like to have him on our team as back-up point. And what do we do with Troy Daniels? We don't have his Bird Rights so we can't just match without having capspace. If he's thrown lots of money (I expect him to be around 5-6 million - around the MLE), then we're screwed. If no one signs him anything, do we get him for his qualifying offer only?
There really are two separate points of interest in time: 1) when the matching period on Parsons expires; and 2) when the Lin and Asik trades are submitted for league approval. The expiration of the matching period obviously is when Houston must decide whether to match Parsons and ends Houston's opportunity to sign a free agent using most or all of a $15M+ cap room before matching Parsons' offer. The submission of Lin and Asik's deal for approval, on the other hand, converts their contracts into two separate trade exceptions. What it forecloses is an opportunity to TRADE for a huge contract by folding the Lin and Asik trades into a big trade. The Lin and Asik outgoing salary combined would allow Houston to take in up to $21.8M in salary. Remember, while trade exceptions cannot be combined in a trade, salaries of outgoing players can be. So, Houston can technically match Parsons' deal in 2 days, but hold off actually completing the Lin and Asik trades for a while more and explore the kind of "big combined trade" option. However, I suspect that Morey is exploring all available options simultaneously and we will have clarity before the Parsons matching decision has to be made.
With this, though, we'd have to find other parties who have assets but are re-building. We can trade more of our picks/the NOP pick to get some solid pieces over here. It just makes the whole process a lot more complicated by finding the right suitors with the right players. I see what you're saying though - instead of having two 8M TPEs to work with, we have the ability to use one huge outgoing 'TPE' so to speak. I did not know this was an option because I thought the trades were all but completed. If I were Morey, I would have my team start calling all the targeted UFAs, then go after teams who are re-building with bad contracts they want to get rid of and see which players fit the best.
Who can be had on the Lakers or Pelicans (or some 3rd team) worth $21M for some combo of equivalent value to Lin/Asik and draft picks? Nash?
Great thread, Carl. I have a question about the minimum team salary. If Morey chose not to match Parsons's contract, he would have to sign some players this summer to meet the salary floor, is that correct?
The options of helping Bulls open cap space for Melo isn't a bad one. The Bulls either needs to trade away Taj Gibson, Mike Dunleavy and more (plus amnestying Boozer) to offer Melo close to the max or they need to do a sign and trade with Boozer as an outgoing salary. The sticking point to the former option is that the Taj was a major selling point to Melo going to CHI and the issue with the latter option is that NYK refused to take Boozer (likely due to tax implications). If the Rockets offer Bulls substantial assets, beginning with Jones and NOP 1st round pick, they could the eat Taj and Dunleavy's salary with Lin and/or Asik's outgoing money or trade exceptions or cap room. Might make sense for the Bulls-- Jones can play in Taj's place and he and additional assets can be traded for veteran help later. They can also use the Lin/Asik outgoing $ to complete a trade where they take Boozer so CHI can trade some draft pick or something to NY for Melo in multi-way deal. HOU would ask for some asset for eating Boozer's contract. Boozers' expiring contract is a fairly useful tool to have if you want to make a big $ trade.
I don't think it will be an issue. There isn't much of a penalty for not meeting the floor and there will likely be some players who want HOU's money even if Bosh doesn't.
Well, like I said, it's nice to have flexibility and assets but having the flexibility and assets to acquire help is no guarantee that you will actually land someone, or that there actually be someone in the marker fitting what you want. Maybe KG if he wants out of Brooklyn and wants to play for his old friend/mentor McHake? Brooklyn wants him, but they are also paying him a ton in salary and tax. Maybe Boozer, if attached to an asset? Thad Young or Jeff Green?
Melo is a ny boy, I don't see him leaving for Chicago. Hasn't Phil offered melo a max deal? Melos agent is probably using Chicago like Bosh's agent used Houston.
I like that idea - Taj is solid. One other idea I had was acquiring Josh Smith who all of a sudden has a fairly reasonable looking contract @ 13.5k. Assuming he stays reasonably productive, when the cap raises after the new tv deal his remaining deal would seem all the sweeter....
If we could do this, why weren't we able to offer Melo a starting salary of $21.8M? Something doesn't seem right.
We needed to make an S&T and that causes issues: 1) NY has to agree to it, and their public stance was (still is?) that they wouldn't help another team swipe Melo; 2) even if NYK would help, giving Melo his max ($22.5M, actually) and matching Parsons will almost inevitably cause HOU to exceed the $80.6M hard cap that comes into play when a team takes in a player via S&T.
troy daniels has played 5 regular season games and 4 playoff games in his NBA career. he's not getting the full MLE.
Thanks for the answer. I need to read up more on the cap issues, but I had thought that if we matched Parsons first and went over the cap possibly, that we could still S&T and not be hard capped. But I understand that what you are saying is that no matter what, if you S&T a player, you are hard capped for that year.
Not only that, we wouldn't be able to give Melo the 5 years with the 7.5% raises per year he wants due to the different rules of the CBA. With a sign and trade nowadays, contract terms would only work as if we straight up signed the free agent. Bird Rights only benefit the incumbent team. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure this is the case.
