Obama flip flops and is pressured into taking a meeting with Rick Perry! I'm glad Obama could take time out of his fundraising schedule to actually do work. http://www.chron.com/news/houston-t...es-Perry-to-roundtable-meeting-on-5606599.php AUSTIN – Gov. Rick Perry on Tuesday morning accepted an invitation from President Obama for a meeting between the two leaders on the border security crisis, the first such meeting after years of partisan posturing on the highly-charged issue. Obama invited Perry late Monday to join him at a roundtable meeting with local and religious leaders on the issue, after Perry had declined an airport handshake when the president arrives in Austin – saying he wanted a more substantive meeting. "Gov. Perry is pleased that President Obama has accepted his invitation to discuss the humanitarian and national security crises along our southern border, and he looks forward to meeting with the president tomorrow," Perry spokesman Travis Considine said.
The counter side though is that by blocking the free access to labor is creating an artificial depression supply. While that might inflate wages protectionism has almost never proven to be an economic winner. Further even taking into account immigration, both legal and illegal, we still are seeing critical shortages in fields where wages are well above minimum wage like home construction. The US construction industry particularly in sun belt states is very dependent upon immigrant labor and even with good salaries we've yet to see native born Americans clamoring to fill those positions.
AUSTIN – Gov. Rick Perry on Tuesday morning accepted an invitation Gov. Perry is pleased that President Obama has accepted his invitation ?????
False is making some great arguments (especially for a guy with the moniker "False") but just wanted to elaborate on this point. Yes coming here not through the proper channels is a crime and the process of doing so leads to other crimes. That though isn't something unique to immigration but is a problem when laws are out of touch with the reality that there are many people who want to come here and many who want to hire them and give them jobs. Consider with mar1juana the process of getting it to the market generally doesn't just break one law but many laws, tax evasion, customs laws in the case of importation, housing and agriculture regulations in the case of home growing it. Most people are beginning to realize though that just cracking down on mar1juana doesn't solve those problems and even increases the incentives to break all of those laws because the reality is that most people want mar1juana or don't see it as that bad. The same situation applies with illegal immigration. As long as the law is out of touch with the reality that there is both a large supply and demand it is left up to the underground economy and increases the incentives to break all sorts of laws. So yes the laws are the laws and we should obey but laws that are out of touch with reality in many cases do more damage to society than they prevent. In the case of immigration if law was closer to reality then all of those people currently coming through the underground economy could be brought into the mainstream. Money currently going to coyotes could instead be collected through customs and immigrations dues. These people could be better accounted for when they get into our country and their earnings could be brought into our tax system. Further the children of immigrants who go through our education system for the most part would end up becoming productive members of out society, like the waves of immigrants who have come before rather than having to live in the shadows. A much more rational immigration system would address many of the problems that bring up. Simply increasing enforcement and trying to keep more people out will exacerbate them.
Obama’s Katrina Moment No. 1: The financial crisis. Obama’s Katrina Moment No. 2: Swine flu. Obama’s Katrina Moment No. 3: The Underwear Bomber. Obama’s Katrina Moment No. 4: The Haiti earthquake. Obama’s Katrina Moment No. 5: The BP oil spill. Obama’s Katrina Moment No. 6: Hurricane Sandy. Obama’s Katrina Moment No. 7: Benghazi/IRS/NSA. Obama’s Katrina Moment No. 8: Obamacare. Obama’s Katrina Moment No. 9?
I don't know how to feel about this. They're just kids. If they have family here who can take them in and want them then they should be able to stay but if not I guess it'd be better to send them back. The young mothers coming with them I have no sympathy for really. Send them back.
It's a given situation on Planet Earth. Parents want their children to have better lives and are willing to sacrifice anything to achieve it. If the rumor (fact) goes around that the US is taking better care of kids than they can get at home, they are coming. We are already up to 52,000 so that's like 300 plane loads to deport, just land the plane and say buh-bye. There is no solution, probably the best thing would be to build housing schooling and job prospects where they live. What would the US do if a real childrens crusade, 1 million, 5 million children start walking to the border? Bomb'em?
Ah yes, the predictable "he won't look at our fence" whine fest. If you prefer, there is a leader that travels across his country looking at things and taking pictures. Sometimes, he even points at them. I heard his style of leadership is very effective. Perhaps you'd feel more at home there: Spoiler
What does "won't secure our borders" mean? We have worried about terrorist bringing in dirty bombs for over a decade, what have we been doing? What should we be doing? (beside vacant blame on the Executive, I mean)
Perhaps the House could bring up the bill which has already passed the senate and already includes increased budget for securing the borders. Another thing they could do is pass the new request for money which also allocates more for securing the border including more judges to help expedite the process of dealing with the cases of the immigrants so they could be deported. But the GOP doesn't seem to be willing to do any of this.
yeah, that's what Mr. Obama said in in his presser. that and the calmest b****slapping I have ever seen.
The problem with the claim that "Oh, illegals boost our economy" is that these people are not ordinary illegal immigrants. They're not able-bodied men who can come in and provide labor, they're children who are being separated from their families and thus have to be cared for by us.
True they probably can't provide an immediate boost but given that birth rates are steady or declining for native born Americans these children could eventually greatly help the economy down the road. To keep our economy growing and SSI solvent decades from now we are going to need more young people in this country. Also while we will have to spend money on educating these children in many ways these children in the long term might be more of a benefit to this country than adults. They have the opportunity to go through our education system and learn our culture and values. That gives them much more potential to succeed in our society and culture than adults coming from the the same situation.
I do not think either of those things really true.In FY 2012 there were only 14% under age 14 and in FY 2013 21% under age 14. From what I have read, this trend of them getting younger is continuing, but even then the average age is quite high. So yes, they might be children but they will be able bodied enough to work very shortly after arrival. They are also not children who are being separated from their families because most come to join family. In fact, "Of the children served, ORR reports that ultimately about 85% are reunified with their families [in the United States]." The other 15% are either returned home or go into long term foster care or unaccompanied refugee minors (URM) programs if they qualify for relief.
