Like I said earlier, I'll take my Dwight, harden rondo lead team vs your Howard, harden, Bev team all day.
The fact that you're trying to argue that Rondo would be a huge upgrade at PG is absolutely hilarious btw.. numerous others have proven you wrong already so enjoy yourself replying to me again with nonsense haha.
[/SIZE] What??? Rondo was the 4th scoring option behind Alllen, Pierce and Garnett in Boston? This statement makes absolutely no sense. Do you forget the Celtics had Garnett and Perkins? His rebounding numbers were just fine with them. Quit trying pull things out your butt to justify your position on how Beverley is better for this team then Rondo. I'll take Rondo's all superstar level of mid range jumpers, defense, assist and rebounds everyday over Beverley's average joe 3 point percentage that you can get out of any free agent point guard. Yes Rondo has been injured and that is a knock on him that I will not defend, yes that is a problem. Neither I nor you can say how he's going to pan out in the long run after his injury. We just have to make educated guesses. I personally believe Rondo will return very close to form, he came back this season and averaged 11.7 points, 9.8 assist and 5.5 boards in his 30 games, superstar numbers, all HIGHER then his career averages. His fg% was noticeably down by 6%, I personally feel he was just rusty and will get his shooting percentages back to form next season. Whether he'l stay healthy in the long run, I don't know, but its a gamble I personally would take. Yes I personally think Rondo is worth 11 million more then Beverley, but hey my opinion doesn't matter and neither does yours. All that matters is what ye heavenly father Morey thinks.
Heh, "superstar level mid range jumpers", if only he could jump while taking FT's maybe he wouldn't look like Dwight Howard out there. Simply put, the kid is a terrible shooter, having him on the Rockets would be great on defense but he'd lead to defenders clogging the lane because everyone knows you don't have to defend him out on the perimeter. As a defender, if you get Rondo to shoot, you've won. he's a terrible match for the Rockets even if you don't factor in that he's a headcase who is bad in the locker room. For the Rockets, give me Bev over the current version of Rondo any day of the week.
Paul Pierce was a ball dominate player as well... He started going deep in the playoffs once he came off the ball and gave it to Rondo. Why have your best offensive weapon who is a very efficient scorer wasting energy trying to run an offense and create open shots for the point guard..??? That's backwards. Harden should be concentrating on putting up 30 ppg and being more aware on defense than trying to get 10 assists and run an offense. They need a point guard to carry that weight and Rondo could do that. Rondo could generate more clean shots for Harden. And if Howard's post game continues to improve off of what he did in the playoffs _ he'll get more shots as well. But I think I would rather the Rockets go get Bledsoe... He's cheaper, don't have to trade for him, and would serve the same purpose.
Actually I believe Rondo shoots 62% from the line in the regular season and 64% from the line during the playoffs... Of course that sounds bad but when you factor in that he only averages around 2 free throw attempts per game _ it's irrelevant.
What were Rondo's assist numbers when he was the 4th option behind Garnett/Pierce/Allen? Much lower, right? That's because he didn't dominate the ball b/c there were better players on his team. Hence, the effectiveness of his passing was mitigated. Is it making sense now? Garnett and Perkins averaged between 15-17 rpg total in 2009/2010. Last season, Dwight averaged 12 rpg by himself. If we get a solid pf, he should get at least 7-8 rpg. That means there would be fewer available rebounds for Rondo to get. Make sense? Are you referring to my obvious, common sense arguments? It's laughable that you think Rondo's mid-range jumpers are more valuable than Beverley's 3 pointers. Which one provides greater spacing for his teammates? Which one is worth more? Also, it seems like you're forgetting that Beverley made the all-defensive 2nd team last season. And what leads you to believe that a 28-year old guard will be able to fully recover from a torn ACL and regain his star status? Why is that your "educated guess"? Empty stats on a losing team. In his 30 games, the Celtics went 6-24.
The Celtics won a championship when Rondo was a role player. As Garnett/Allen/Pierce aged, Rondo took on a greater role in the offense, and the Celtics got increasingly worse. Lebron's Heat? Dirk's Mavs? Kobe's Lakers? Shaq's Lakers? Jordan's Bulls? Olajuwon's Rockets? Duncan's Spurs? Sounds like Harden's fundamental flaws (poor defensive awareness & lack of off-the-ball movement) seem fairly easy to fix. Simplicity itself, right?
It's very relevant. If he has the ball at the end of close games, teams can simply foul him and send him to the free throw line. If he doesn't have the ball, his poor jump shooting will allow his defender to sag off of him.
[/SIZE][/FONT]What were Rondo's assist numbers when he was the 4th option behind Garnett/Pierce/Allen? Much lower, right? That's because he didn't dominate the ball b/c there were better players on his team. Hence, the effectiveness of his passing was mitigated. Is it making sense now? No his assist numbers were the exactly the same. your still making absolutely no sense. Dwight averaged 12 rpg, Jones averaged 7, Garnett was good for about 9 and Perkins 8, 2 rebound difference big deal. So because of about a 2 rebound difference in the front court, your going to entirely discredit Rondo's career average of 4.5 rebounds? Ok buddy. Are you referring to my obvious, common sense arguments? No because they are stupid arguments that don't make any sense It's laughable that you think Rondo's mid-range jumpers are more valuable than Beverley's 3 pointers. Which one provides greater spacing for his teammates? Which one is worth more? Dude, i'm not going to even go into this... Its been talked about way to much already. Also, it seems like you're forgetting that Beverley made the all-defensive 2nd team last season. I know Beverley made second defensive team, I love Beverley, but I think it's BS. I don't think he's anything more then a average defender. IMO Beverley is a very physical defender, and hustles a lot, which is great but don't confuse that for skilled defense. Anybody with the right mentality can be physical and lead the league in fouls at the point guard position, but it takes skill to actually stay in front of your man and to stop him from scoring. Beverley constantly got lit up by opponent PG's, and constantly got blown by on defense by his man. And what leads you to believe that a 28-year old guard will be able to fully recover from a torn ACL and regain his star status? Why is that your "educated guess"? Because he came back this season and averaged more points, assist and rebounds then his career averages. Empty stats on a losing team. In his 30 games, the Celtics went 6-24. I'm still impressed with his stats after coming off a injurt whether their empty or not, and i'm not going to blame the Celtics record on Rondo.
Ray Allen 43% FG 39% 3FG 16.1 PPG 3.3 RPG 2.6 APG .9 SPG Rondo 50% FG 21% 3FG 13.7 PPG 4.4 RPG 9.8 APG 2.33 SPG (led the league) KG 52% FG 14.3 PPG 7.3 RPG 2.7 APG .99 SPG .83 BPG Rondo was selected to his first allstar game in 2010, Ray Allen was not selected.
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