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Rockets "heavily engaged" with Chris Bosh

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Jul 6, 2014.

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Do you like the Rockets offering a full max deal to Chris Bosh?

  1. YES

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  1. dc rock

    dc rock Member

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    Bron meeting Pat today to gracefully exit and return to Cleveland on the fourth anniversary of "The Decision" ? :confused:

    Bosh landing in Houston?

    Everyone can sleep and eat again?
     
  2. Cstyle42

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    Lol as of right now Miami is in a worse situation then they were in at the end of this year's playoffs.
     
  3. justtxyank

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    Wade wasn't worse last year. He was very good aside from the fact that he needed to rest during the regular season. He was good in the regular season when he played (very good in fact) and was very good in the playoffs until the finals against San Antonio when he was terrible.

    I mean I don't want to sound like I'm hyping up Miami because I think they have roster issues for sure.
     
  4. Pull_Up_3

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    easy path 2 the finals ok.

    Will they still get destroyed with that roster against the Spurs? YES lol
     
  5. kevC

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    Almost got there? That team won 34 games.

    Look, my point is that equating player value to team success is misguided because so much of it is circumstantial. Kevin Love is 25 years old and was a top 10 player for 3 seasons (discounting the 12-13 injury season) stuck on awful teams. It's silly to declare "OH NO CAN'T BE A TOP PLAYER NEVER MADE THE PLAYOFFS".
     
  6. justtxyank

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    I agree with you.

    Team success is the wrong way to judge a player. The Tpups are a poorly run organization with mediocre at best talent.
     
  7. Spacemoth

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    Problem is, he ain't getting better. Those knees won't magically heal up after an offseason of rest. He'll be missing more and more games, and not showing up on the biggest stages for the rest of his career.
     
  8. photojoe

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    Key words in this post- "when he played"
     
  9. justtxyank

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    Yeah he sat out a chunk of the regular season and the Heat still had the 2nd best record in the conference and then took apart the one with the best record thanks in part to Wade playing great.
     
  10. J.R.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Tues column: The truth behind the bogus idea players should &quot;sacrifice&quot; as seen through the Heat's attempted retool: <a href="http://t.co/O7rm4Dn1Sy">http://t.co/O7rm4Dn1Sy</a></p>&mdash; Zach Lowe (@ZachLowe_NBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/statuses/486541243238080512">July 8, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    [rQUOTEr]...

    All of this brings us back to Bosh. Houston, through skillful management and plain old luck, has assembled a roster that has allowed it to offer Bosh his full max salary. It’s fitting that the roster includes a feisty young point guard, Patrick Beverley, whom the Heat waived. On the flippity flip, that roster also includes Jeremy Lin, whom the Rockets chose over Goran Dragic4 and now must salary-dump (along with a draft pick) to clear space for Bosh.

    Bosh would fit beautifully in Houston. A big who can shoot 3s while doing enough big-guy stuff — rebounding, defense, etc. — is massively valuable. Bosh is used to spotting up, working without the ball, and yielding the lane to another post-up player — key skills for anyone joining Dwight Howard and James Harden.

    The Rockets’ pitch to Bosh centered on his defense and how he would mesh with Howard on that end, per a source familiar with the matter. Houston reassured Bosh that he is an underrated defender — that all the loudmouths who deride him as “soft” conveniently miss him chasing pick-and-rolls 30 feet from the hoop, creating turnovers with his long arms, and fighting hard in the post.

    Flash back to Houston’s first-round loss against Portland, when the Rockets had to assign Howard and Omer Asik to defend LaMarcus Aldridge on the perimeter. Doing that compromised their spacing and shifted a rim protector away from the basket. Imagine how devastating they might be if they could shift those assignments to Bosh, who is taller and rangier than Terrence Jones, while leaving Howard to whack away shots near the hoop.

    Again: This isn’t the ideal test of whether the ultra-punitive luxury tax has really made it more difficult to keep superteams together. Bosh would be joining a similar collection of stars in Houston, a large market that doesn’t appear to need much help attracting players. Bosh isn’t choosing between wildly divergent salaries as he would be in a system with no ceiling on individual player compensation.

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  11. Lando19

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    Tick tock tick tock ..
     
  12. Icehouse

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    My menory was off. They did not almost make it.

    It's not misguided. This is the lone team sport where having one player makes all the difference in the world. That's why something like 10 guys have led their teams to all of the titles over the last 30 years or so. If you are arguing that one player does not make a world of difference in this league then you are very wrong.

    Plenty of stars have been stuck on awful teams. Any Rocket fan that saw Hakeem play should know this. You still won't go 6 years without ever making the postseason or posting a winning record. You are bringing up rare instances of great players failing to make the playoffs like once or twice in their lives. How bout you find instances of great players that went through a 6 year span, when they weren't old as hell, where they failed to even win half of their games.
     
  13. J.R.

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    Sources say the clock may continue to tick tock tick tock without any resolutions today...unless there are resolutions today.
     
  14. photojoe

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    When you look at the Eastern Conference last year, was having the second best record there really an accomplishment? The one with the best record imploded for the entire second half of the season, including struggling with their first rounds of the playoffs. And even with all of the rest he had during the regular season, it looked like it wasn't enough and he wore out and just looked old during the Finals.

    San Antonio has been able to rest their players for years now because they are deep enough to do so. Even when they rest their best players, they are still competitive.

    Miami needed to rest Wade out of necessity. But they didn't have the same luxury to rest Lebron as well. Without Lebron playing, they struggled. So they are forced to ask Lebron to play big minutes.

    The reports are saying that Wade opted out of 2 years/40 million to try to get a 4 or 5 year deal worth 50-60 million? Isn't that problem only going to get exponentially worse?
     
  15. justtxyank

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    JR upgraded his software to "Insider 2014."
     
  16. justtxyank

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    Yes absolutely. Like I said, they have roster issues no doubt. Never have said they don't.
     
  17. J.R.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Heat believe McRoberts is kind of stretch four (physical, passer, shooter) they haven't had before and will be even better with Big 3.</p>&mdash; Jeff Zillgitt (@JeffZillgitt) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffZillgitt/statuses/486543601518665729">July 8, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Also hearing that Granger is highly motivated to prove he can be a valuable contributor on a contender. We'll see. But they are upgrades.</p>&mdash; Jeff Zillgitt (@JeffZillgitt) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffZillgitt/statuses/486543978850828289">July 8, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  18. sabesque

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    There are reports that Pat Riley and Lebron could potentially meet today in Vegas, where LBJ is having Nike camps.

    Do you think LBJ has Riley fly out to Vegas to give him bad news?
     
  19. justtxyank

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    I agree with them.

    He's a good signing.
     
  20. rlivz

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    Does that make Bosh a stretch five?
     

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