Well you're absolutely right about Fitz, he hasn't ever been a game manager but he's never been slotted as one before either. If he can't adjust to the new role he won't have it long. As to this draft, every QB had fatal flaws and IMO the reason to be high on Savage is that he won't have to play immediately and that he was one of the few who had legitimate size. I don't think anyone at all expects him to be Brady.
If Russell was taller many of the "experts" say he wouldn't have lasted until the 3rd round. They say he had 1st round talent but he was short. And he played like a 1st round talent in college. Finding a "game manager" that can put the team on his back and make a play when needed (like Russell did here in Houston and to many other teams) are far and few between. But Russell gets no credit for operating behind an offensive line that was almost as bad as the Texans and being a leader and changing the culture of that team and he didn't have an AJ to throw to. Savage is a guy who went a thousand days without playing a game in college and he probably would have been available in the 6th-7th round for the Texans and his college career has extreme blemishes compared to guys like Russell and other quarterbacks who are having success in the NFL that weren't drafted in the 1st round. I think people who think guys like Russell are easy to find are not paying attention... Because even if our defense is as good as Seattle's with the addition of Clowney like many seem to believe _ it doesn't matter if you don't have a quarterback that can get the job done... See Buffalo and St Louis.
Fitzpatrick has had plenty of chances. He got hot in Buffalo like Jeremy Lin and they gave Fitzpatrick a $100 million contract (which was crazy) _ and then he turned back into a pumpkin and they cut him. I know a lot of fans wanted either Johnny or Teddy but I think Blake was the quarterback O'Brien wanted _ and I don't think he had control of this draft.
I wasn't saying game manager was a bad thing either. Just saying Colin and Wilson are better than that title.
That is one expensive game manager lol. And I don't think the 9ers view him as such. But if they did I don't think they would have given him that fat contract bobbythegreat.
Fans are just hoping one of these qbs pan out. If we draft Johnny, Bridgewater, Brotles or any other quarterback we would wishing the same for them. Just the nature of fan-dome
I'm sure they don't view him that way, the ravens probably thought Joe Flacco was a good QB given the contract they gave him but that doesn't make them any less wrong about it.
Kubiak was using Schaub like he was Peyton Manning having him toss the ball 40+ times a game, it was suicidal.
But wouldn't allow Matt to audible in and out of plays like Manning. Another thing Flacco was a big reason why the Ravens won the superbowl. He is also the face of that franchise.
Flacco also performed worse than Schaub and Keenum did last season. Pretty much the only thing Flacco has going for him is a lucky 3 or 4 games and the fact that his team won, he's by no means a good QB.
If a quarterback is good _ a team has to pay him handsomely and it doesn't matter if he's not elite like Payton Manning. Because elite quarterbacks are practically impossible to find and good to great quarterbacks are hard to find. Elite, great, and or good game managing quarterbacks are all in the same boat because none of those guys grow on trees. Over half the NFL teams have quarterbacks who are starting who shouldn't be. But Kaepernick actually doesn't have a contract like Brees, Rodgers, Manning, Flacco, etc. Read for yourself. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/05/the-full-kaepernick-contract-details/ Every QB in the NFL is looking at Kaepernick like he's crazy.
So did Eli Manning. I guess the Ravens are dumb and crazy for making him the face. But hey we will see what there new OC has in store for him. I bet he will throw for well over 3400 yards.
Thanks for the article. Interesting indeed . I never said he is getting paid like the elite to good qbs in the game. Imo that is still a lot for a game manager lol. If if and if he stays healthy and perform up to their standards. Dude will reap most of that contract. Now Remii how do you know what every quarterbacks is saying let alone thinking. Lol
Man that's obvious... Flacco got a $120 million contract with a $29 million dollar singing bonus and it pays out $62 million in the 1st three years and it doesn't matter if his team doesn't get to the playoffs, if he doesn't perform well, or if he gets injured and can't play. Kaepernick must have AJ's uncle as his agent... Lol. Yea, a "game manager" that got his team to a super bowl his 1st year as a starter I believe. But several good quarterbacks out there have a good quarterback coach _ like Kaepernick, Rodgers, Brees, etc. and that's what we have to "hope" O'Brien is.
That coach made Schaub look awesome last year, we'll see what he can do with a less accurate QB this year.
Flacco had been outstanding in his last 3 or 4 postseasons. I think he had something like 10 straight games over 90 QB Rating, and a whole lot of TDs with very few INTs. His performance in the 2012 playoffs wasn't really lucky - it was right in line with his postseason career. Why he and Eli are so much better in the playoffs than regular season, I have no idea - but it's a very consistent pattern for both of them.
His 2012 playoffs should have ended in Denver if the Broncos safety makes the easy interception rather than completely misplaying the pass to allow the hail mary pass to be completed. Then the very next game, the Ravens defense holds the best offense in the league to 13 points...it was a magical run full of luck but if you look at his playoff averages he completes 55.5% of his passes which is pathetic in this era of the NFL and throws for about 206 yards per game which is right around what you would expect from a QB like Chad Henne. His TD-INT ratio is good, but if you factor in that his really lucky offseason accounted for 11 TDs and no interceptions (somehow) the rest of his postseason career is 1 TD to 1 INT which again, is what you would expect from Chad Henne.
Out of the 11 times Tom Brady has been to the playoffs _ 6 of those seasons he was in the 50% range (with a super bowl win or two). He completed 58% & 57% of his passes the past two years in the playoffs and he's only completed over 70% of his passes in the playoffs once in his career. But I don't think we would compare him to Henne. Brady got lucky against Oakland. Oakland probably should have went to the super bowl and didn't because of "the tuck." A defense back not making an interception isn't luck _ it's just the defensive player didn't make the play. Simple as that.
