Sources: Rockets have Lowry as 4th option after Lebron/Melo/Bosh

Ask the Oracle of Delphi.... lol

 

I think the value we have for Beverley is very real. I imagine we keep him unless he gets a wild offer next year. This isn't Chuck Hayes where we have to let him walk.

 

Forgot to include Beverley and the Rights to Nick Johnson.

I know some will be skeptical of this, but the reality is with that starting 5, your bench won't matter. Why? Because you're bench players can be one dimensional. A couple of backup bigs for defense, and a few wings and guards for 3 point shooting. Everything else can be handled by the starters.

To be clear, I'm not proposing that we send all of this to Minnesota, just that all of it would be on the table.

 

Not sure why Minny would take any of that

 

Can we do anything with Daniels?

 

Jesus... *fingers crossed*, only a few more days of this idiocy.

 

Which part troubles you?

TJones is a proven prospect that still has upside.

DMo is at least a rotation player.

Canaan and Covington are young players on very cheap contracts.

The NOP 2015 pick is one of the best in the league.

Capela, Gentile, Papanikolaou, and Llull are 4 of the best europrospects available.

Also, Beverley (2nd team all-NBA defense) can be traded for a pick.

That is an amazing haul for a player with one year left on his contract. It's more than OKC got for Harden, who was worth more because he was going to be a RFA.

 

I think unless Parsons is in the conversation (I agree that Harden and Howard would be non-starters), Minny has better offers and balks. The things you listed really aren't that great for Minny. They're good sweeteners if we throw in Parsons (if he agrees to a SnT) to insure we get Love, but yeah no...

Lowry/Harden/??/Love/Howard with TJones and Canaan and Covington, etc. off the bench is pretty damn good too. Could even run some small ball at times with Bev/Lowry/Harden at the 1-3 spots.

 

It's a two way street.

Sure, the Rockets would love to keep him.

Does Beverley want to be a backup? Maybe he wants to be a starter? What are his intentions? Starter? Backup? Go get paid? Take a little less to stay?

"Oh, well we're a championship caliber team, he'll want to stay."

Yeah, we saw how that worked with Omer Asik. Not saying Beverley is Omer Asik or will pull an Asik but we don't know.

 

I don't think Minny wants to rebuild that hard. Would rather get a good player now (Parsons) than to develop other ones or get only picks (or combo of the latter two things).

 

No your point is dead on. Players rarely stay on title teams as backups for less money when they can go start for more money on a bad team.

 

I guess I disagree.

Look at the Harden trade, (who may i remind you, was going to be a RFA...ie he was worth more than Love is now)

Kevin Martin
Jeremy Lamb
Toronto #1
Dallas #1
2nd round pick

for Harden (6th man of the year at 22 years old)

Now take that, and compare it to what we can offer

Martin = Beverley on a cheaper contract, can be made a RFA, and can be flipped for a pick
Lamb <<< Capela, Llull, Papanikolaou, Gentile, Johnson
Toronto #1 = NOP #1
Dallas #1 > Rockets #1 (but not by much....remember, the dallas pick was top 20 protected)
Plus TJones, DMo, Canaan, Covington

It's just a plain better assortment of talent. Golden State cannot match that offer. Boston can't even match that offer.

 

Lowry, no question.

But I'd LIVE for the small lineups where they would run together.

 

Bad example. That was a complete mismanagement or misappropriation of talent. People knew Harden was good, but not THAT good...or else he would fetch a lot more. I mean, GSW and Wiz turned Presti DOWN first!! Harden was a steal and a coup by us because others valued him less than what he turned out to be, period.

Love is not a promising prospect. Love isn't even considered a good player. He's considered a great one (I disagree but I digress). His market value is very high and will undoubtedly be higher than what we had to give to get Harden. Dude is seen as a superstar that many teams are clawing after, and who the whole league is on alert about. Minny can also wait till Feb. if they wanted -- they don't HAVE to deal Love now (neither did OKC though; Presti done messed).

Not the same thing.

 

Dude, most of those guys are just names on a piece of paper. Covington has no real value, Canaan, etc. Those are guys who maybe will end up as contributors to an NBA team but maybe will be out of the league pretty quickly.

Beverly also doesn't equal Martin. Beverly is a niche player. Has very little offensive game, not a good distributor. He's a goo defensive player that fits well on a star team. He's similar to Mario Chalmers.

The NO #1 is a good pick, but the TOR was better, but not by much.

 

I hope we keep TD. Dude can shoot. Those kick outs will be more frequent if they're rewarded. Right, Dwight?

 

Often bball is not about numbers, not even advanced numbers. This team, this roster, desperately needs Lowry's heart and leadership.
Really hoping his comeback, it would be a dream to see Lowry + Harden playing together for the Rockets.

 

Howard at center with Parsons at the 4, Harden at the 3, Lowry at the 2, and Bev at PG. That lineup may close a lot of games.

 

We can allow Minny to sign him and not match the offer sheet.




I'm with you on the Love speculation though. I really think at this point we are getting him. When I heard Morey and McHale were knocking on Lowry's doorstep at midnight...that kinda did it for me. No way we go chasing Lowry down without having a deal for a 4. Simply no way. Morey is trying to grab something else along with Love and Martin and possibly ship Martin off in the process.

Either that or Morey has a trade in the bag for another 4 (possibly Ryan Anderson) that he is satisified with enough to go after Lowry.

 

That will seal the deal for sure.